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EuroBasket 2013 qualifiers: Five prospective NBA players making noise

September 5, 2012

This one’s exactly what the title says; this morning, BallinEurope takes a brief look at five key players competing in the ongoing EuroBasket 2013 qualifying round with NBA contracts signed or rights owned. Let’s get right to it, then, beginning with a couple of reasons Brooklyn Nets fans should be a heckuva lot more optimistic than they were post-D12 rejection.

• Mirza Teletovic, PF – Team Bosnia & Herzegovina, rights owned by the Brooklyn Nets. If Teletovic’s signing by the Nets this offseason could be classified as “under the radar,” the longtime Caja Laboral stud is a massive attention-grabbing phenomenon on the screen right now. The excellently-named From Russia With Dunk proclaimed Teletovic to be “dominating” in EuroBasket 2013 qualifying games; NBC Sports described his play as “tearing it up”; at Ridiculous Upside, he’s “lighting it up” – all statements made with justifiable reason.

BiE doesn’t believe FIBA names a EuroBasket qualifying round MVP, but Teletovic could make quite an impressive case for the theoretical award. The prospective Net boasts a stat line of 25.7 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 0.7 blocks per game for his 4-2 side. Team Bosnia & Herzegovina has been content to dump the ball inside to Teletovic continuously to the tune of 20.7 shots per game, tops in the qualifiers. Teletovic’s best showings have come against the woefully outmuscled Netherlands, who he’s punished for lines of 33/6 and 36/7.

At 6’9”, Teletovic will not solve all of Brooklyn’s problems underneath, but right now he’s looking like a reasonable upgrade from Kris Humphries. Nice signing.





• Tornike Shengelia, PF – Georgia, Brooklyn Nets. As though earning a contract with the Nets after some nifty Summer League play at 20 years of age weren’t enough, the folks at FIBA Europe threw Shengelia an additional gauntlet before the EuroBasket qualifiers tipped off: “Pretty much unstoppable at youth level where he has been a sensation in a Georgia uniform, it’s now time for Tornike Shengelia to prove he can also have an impact with the senior national team.”

And so it has come to pass: A stat line of 15.2 points, 7.8 rebounds, 1.6 steals and 1.2 blocks per game is perhaps only surpassed in impressiveness by the amount of playing time Shengelia has received for Team Georgia. At 160 minutes accrued in qualifying games thus far, Shengelia’s seen almost as much court time as his internationally acknowledged star big men Zaza Pachulia (91) and Giorgi Shermadini (70) combined. Also outstanding is his remarkable self-control in the paint: Leading the team with 23 fouls drawn, he’s committed only 16 – if only he’d improved on that 60% (18-of-30) free-throw shooting…

(Incidentally, Georgians have got to be liking their team’s future; BiE believes that this side has the potential to become a European power within a few years, right now packing a solid first eight and gobs of skilled height.)

As for Shengelia’s future in the NBA, well, it’s gonna be interesting. To think that three months ago, Nets fans were looking at a backcourt led by Brook Lopez and Humphries while we’re almost certain to be seeing a couple of Europeans named Teletovic and Shengelia getting quality court time by season’s end … maybe now Brooklyn backers can forget about failing to snag Dwight Howard and Andrei Kirilenko.

• Tibor Pleiß, Center – Germany, Oklahoma City Thunder. A longtime BiE fave, Pleiß has stood out among a Team Germany sans Dirk Nowitski and Chris Kaman but dominated by the 1988-1990 generation. With the exception of the Sweden game in which he was keyed on throughout and thus less involved in the offense, Pleiß has provided steady production in the middle, ranking fourth for the tourney in both shooting percentage (64.1%) and offensive rebounding (4.0 per game).

Better yet for the home nation, Team Germany has gone 5-0 against admittedly less-than-stiff competition (Bulgaria, Sweden, Azerbaijan, Luxembourg – hey, can we call this “The Group of Life”?) and is set to clinch a EuroBasket 2013 bid tonight against Bulgaria.

As for running with the Thunder, Kendrick Perkins’ presence will keep the German away for a year or two more, surely. If/when the transition does come, it will mark quite the departure in playing style. While Pleiß’ court awareness and passing skills are developing brilliantly, the truth is the seven-footer does not look physically prepared to thoroughly mix it up in the NBA trenches. Yet.

• Tomáš Satoranský, PG – Czech Republic, Washington Wizards. And the Czech’s upward trend continues – at least in Europe. From being named no. 9 top player in Europe in 2009 to wowing scouts at the 2011 Eurocamp to a no. 32 overall selection in the 2012 NBA Draft, Satoranský is currently two wins (or even less, depending on the disappointing Team Turkey) away from making the Czech the Cinderella pick in ’13.

Though the 20-year-old was cited for speed and leadership issues in 2012 NBA Summer League play, Satoranský has had few problems with directing the Team Czech offense and his “inability to actually come to the ball” has dissolved on The Continent – perhaps he’s even become too aggressive. Perhaps best evidence of this was in the Portugal game, wherein Satoranský ran up six points, nine assists, 10 rebounds and a steal … against five turnovers.

Worrisome at present is his shooting. After going 6-of-25 in the first two EuroBasket qualifiers, coach Pavel Budinsky clearly patiently explained to his young charge to quit the damn chucking; Satoranský’s attempts thereafter have been capped at 10, his shooting is “up” to 33.3% and his overall line is pleasingly rounded at 9.3 ppg, 5.3 apg, 5.2 rpg and 1.2 spg.

BiE’s take? Surely the inconsistencies and sometimes slow reaction can be attributed to inexperience. After a meteoric rise through the ranks, ACB and NBA fans need only give the future Wizard a bit more time before labeling him as fated to spend his playing days in Europe. A medium-term project.

• Ádám Hanga, SG/SF – Hungary, San Antonio Spurs. No way this column ends without giving props to the main man in BiE’s adopted homeland, the best individual player to emerge from Hungary since Kornél Dávid and seemingly destined to become the country’s second-ever Magyar to play in the big league.

Team Hungary’s run in the EuroBasket qualifiers has been disappointing; though perhaps a bit blinded by homerism, BiE had seen promise in the past couple seasons with Hanga as focus. After all, this was the final team to be eliminated from EuroBasket 2011 contention.

But let’s not get bogged down in Hungarian-style pessimism – back to Hanga! The 23-year-old, currently plying his professional trade at Bàsquet Manresa, has demonstrated he’s still riding the learning curve in these qualifiers. His lightning-quick reaction speed is evidenced in his 2.4 steals per game and even 50.0% shooting percentage, his basketball IQ in his 18.8 ppg and incredible 7.0 drawn fouls per.

Draft Express touted Hanga’s excellent play in Eurocamps 2009 and 2011, guessing after the latter that the Hungarian “could be a player a team decides to roll the dice on somewhere in the second round to see how he develops over the next few years in Europe.” Naturally, those too-clever, Euro-stashing Spurs took a flyer on the little-known dude in an obscure basketball program.

The prospect masters have also noted in profiling Hanga that his 6’7” height and prototypical European skill set gave him a huge advantage in the Hungarian domestic league; luckily for San Antonio (and Manresa), Hanga appears to be compensating for certain limits against tougher competition nicely. Can it be long before we see the Spurs suit up a multinational team of Hanga, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Tiago Splitter and Tim Duncan/even Boris Diaw? C’mon, Pops, make it so!

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Comments: 38
  1. andresb
    12 years ago

    Yeah, a guy who is shooting poorly & can’t rebound against the likes of Romania, Georgia & Latvia is an upgrade over one of only 4 players to average a double-double with points & rebounds in the NBA each of the past 2 seasons. Give me a break.

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  2. Michael
    12 years ago

    Teletovic in 50 times a better player than Humphries is.

    But he is such a HUGE ball hog.

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  3. mike
    12 years ago

    Teletovich 50 times better? Laughable. If you are not in the NBA, all your stats outside the league should be taken with a grain of salt. After all, the NBA is the best league in the world, and Spanoulis agrees. He said : ” Who doesn’t want to be in the NBA? The best players in the world play there.” Translation: all other leagues are minor leagues compared to the NBA.

    Not so hard to understand, idiot!

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  4. Niko
    12 years ago

    Spanoulis,

    “Olympiacos can beat any teamfrom any league in the world.”

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      I think he was referring to women’s leagues.

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      • Gabe
        12 years ago

        Because they sure couldn’t beat Team Nigeria. Nigeria!

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  5. Miguel
    12 years ago

    Meanwhile, the Euroleague did its yearly Turkish Airlines and Euroleague official promotion ad. The players selected every year to do this are “the biggest stars that European basketball has”.

    The three players selected were, Juan Carlos Navarro, Vassilis Spanoulis, and Sofoklis Schortsanitis, with Navarro and Spanoulis getting the obvious top billing of the 3.

    Here is an article about the commercial and a pic from it.

    http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/578117

    So these American racists can say whatever they want about Spanoulis and Navarro. The fact of the matter is that they are 10 times bigget stars in Europe than 90% of the NBA players will ever be in the United States.

    They are way more famous and bigger names in Europe than the vast majority of NBA players will ever be in the USA. And all the xenophobic and racist American NBA only fans that post here cannot stand that.

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      Yes so an official Euroleague promotion selected 3 biggest stars they selected three players from their league. Of course they would. It’s a promotion for their league.

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  6. hamza
    12 years ago

    the funniest thing is that all these xenophobic aamerican posters are definetly middle aged white anglo saxons who can jump about 1 centimetre high and have nothing to do with neither basketball and certainly not the black players of america, largely from poor backgrounds, who certainly dont play for their former oppressors when they wear the american jersey…white americans simply cannot play this game (since larry bird, and john stockton) because they have become so fat and unathletic and spoilt…thats why they get upset when they see latins, slavic people, greeks, lithuanians, turks etc playing the game very well which they apparently invented but cant play…

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  7. hamza
    12 years ago

    this having been said….as much as i love the euroleague and european/international basketball and all its characteristics….most of the best players in the world play in the nba, making it the best league…

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  8. hamza
    12 years ago

    who were the best white players in the nba in last 10 years…
    ginobili, nowitzki, both gasols, stojakovic, kirilenko, turkoglu, parker, bargnani, divac 9at v end of his career)….

    i rest my case.

    how many good gringo wasp ffat anglo saxon american btches like gabe were there, making big impacts on playoff teams……maybe just jason williams……and please,,,blake griffin is black….. all you have is brian scalabrine

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      Kevin Love idiot.

      And I’m not a wasp, maybe a little fat but I have just recently lost 20 lbs!

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      • Gabe
        12 years ago

        It’s also funny how you say Black Girffin is black but Parker is white! lol

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  9. Gabe
    12 years ago

    Listen this argument about NBA vs Euroleague is dead, over. This isn’t 2006 anymore. This Olympics ended the argument. And not because the US won it’s third straight competition, everybody knew that was happening. It was when Team Greece, with four players from the Euroleague champion (and not just any four players, the Final Four MVP, the player with the most points in the final, the player who hit the winning shot of the final and another starter), was eliminated from playing in the Olympics by Team Nigeria. The same Nigeria that lost to the US by 83 points.

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  10. Phileus
    12 years ago

    I lol’ed that the amateur cultural theorist up there called Parker white, but then said Griffin is black. Well if Parker counts as a white player, then forget about Blake Griffin – surely Jason Kidd should also be on your list of top “white” players!

    It’s also convenient that you forgot Kevin Love, the best rebounder in the NBA. But probably the most ridiculous thing is that you didn’t include Steve Nash. Why, is Canada too close to America? 😛

    No, no, let’s ignore these informations because it doesn’t fit into your crackpot ignorant conception of the world!

    So you obviously don’t understand the NBA, you don’t understand American society, and it seems you can’t even get your own odd notions of races straight at all… please give us a reason to take you seriously 😛

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    • Phileus
      12 years ago

      By the way, why is this even an issue? No serious basketball fan disagrees that top foreign players have very often become top NBA players, but I don’t think anybody could disagree with the fact that, in the past ten years, top foreign players have come to the NBA and been mediocre or outright bad.

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  11. DallasTexasSaqartvelo
    12 years ago

    Two words: Brian Scalabrene.

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  12. DallasTexasSaqartvelo
    12 years ago

    Two words: Brian Scalabrene.

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  13. Erik
    12 years ago

    Gabe has said about 500 times here in this site that he is “a white guy”. He says this every time someone calls out his Afro supremacy racism against white people here due to all the racist comments he makes.

    Now, all of a sudden, he is “not a wasp”.

    This Gabe is a pure example of the slime of humanity.

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      Can you really be that stupid to believe all whites are wasps? Do you even know that wasp stands for? Obviously not.

      This Erik is a pure example of the idiocity of humanity.

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  14. Erik
    12 years ago

    Phileus says:
    September 8, 2012 at 12.06am

    By the way, why is this even an issue? No serious basketball fan disagrees that top foreign players have very often become top NBA players, but I don’t think anybody could disagree with the fact that, in the past ten years, top foreign players have come to the NBA and been mediocre or outright bad.

    And numerous NBA 6th man and starters from NBA playoff teams have gone to the Euroleague and absolutely SUCKED.

    But lying racists like YOU won’t admit it.

    Also, plenty of SCRUBS from Euroleague have gone to the NBA and become very good players.

    But again LYING RACISTS like YOU won’t ever admit it.

    You are a total hypocrite, and so is Gabe.

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      Name one. Idiot.

      And…by the way…wait for it….wait for it….NIGERIA!!!

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  15. Zoran
    12 years ago

    Gabe is “not black:”. Gabe “is white”. Gabe is “not a wasp”.

    So this explains it. Gabe is one of the lower mongrel lifeforms. That explains why he is so incredibly stupid, racist, and xenophobic.

    Of course he isn’t a wasp. If he was, he would not have an IQ in the low 80s range.

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      Are you a WASP Zoran? A white Anglo Saxon Protestant? I would hazard to guess no. Then you just called yourself one of the lower mongrel lifeforms. Where at least for you, it seems to fit. Idiot.

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  16. Zoran
    12 years ago

    Name one. Idiot.

    And…by the way…wait for it….wait for it….NIGERIA!!!

    >

    many NBA players went to Euroleague and were awful. It has been repeated and discussed a million times in this site with you by many Europeans. But you refuse to acknowledge it because you are a scum bag.

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      Again, name one so I can prove you wrong.

      There is this country in West/Central Africa. The most populous country in the African continent. It is called…wait…WAIT!…NIGERIA!!!!!

      Nigeria!!!!! lalalalala NIGERIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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  17. hamza
    12 years ago

    haha gay-be is gay

    all im saying that it makes me laugh that white americans who are maybe the most untalented ethnic group to play in the nba.(wow, all you have is kevin love, a semi star on a sub 500 team). are claiming the success of the blacks as their own when all they did is enslave the blacks, abuse them and make a society in which they can only make it by playing hoops or rapping…they have nothing to do with anglo saxon white america, and probably hate it as much as all the people you bomb everyyear around the world, from belgrade to baghdad… ……..
    what these gay-be people hate is that europeans, especially from the east and south so therefore what white supremacists people like gabe call inferior and backward, absloutely dominate the game in europe and have produced lots of nba stars, gasol, ginobili, kirilenko, stojakovic, divac, turkoglu………something that since larry bird and john stockton can simply not be said about the 300 pound, mcdonalds eating fat average white american today……..go watch darts or bowling

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      First off it is not me who is a white supremacist calling Eastern and Southern Europeans inferior, it is your friend Zoran who if you look two posts up called them “lower mongrel lifeforms” In fact if you must know my ethnicity is Southern (Italian) and Eastern (Jewish) European.

      Kevin Love a “semi star”? He was only 4th in MVP voting, selected to the all-NBA second team and the center for the gold winning team USA.

      And you’re getting into a whole historical/social argument about the US. Yes the US has a morally stained history, including slavery, like most countries do. Yes there is still racism in the US, like there is in most countries. Still the US now has a black president and blacks in many position of power including mayors and members of congress, not just rappers and ballers. Unlike you racist we don’t divide ourselves by race. I know you are jealous that you keep getting you asses kicked by the US and all the players who see them selves just as American as or president or any other American.

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  18. Michael
    12 years ago

    Gabe is just an extremely stupid, mean, rude, insulting, uneducated, ignorant, xenophobic, and racist punk.

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  19. Michael
    12 years ago

    Again, name one so I can prove you wrong.

    There is this country in West/Central Africa. The most populous country in the African continent. It is called…wait…WAIT!…NIGERIA!!!!!

    Nigeria!!!!! lalalalala NIGERIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    —–

    wait for it wait for it wait for it

    Greece 101 – USA 95

    Spanoulis 22 points

    Chris Paul 3 points

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    • Gabe
      12 years ago

      USA has won three gold medals since than and Chris Paul won two of those. What has Spanoulis and Greece done since than, I mean apart from getting their asses kicked by Nigeria? NIGERIA!!!!

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  20. Michael
    12 years ago

    First off it is not me who is a white supremacist calling Eastern and Southern Europeans inferior, it is your friend Zoran who if you look two posts up called them “lower mongrel lifeforms” In fact if you must know my ethnicity is Southern (Italian) and Eastern (Jewish) European.

    —-

    What a shock. This racist SCUMBAG is an Italian Jew. SHOCKING.

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    • Phileus
      12 years ago

      LOL, in the same thread, Gabe has been called a black supremacist, a white supremacist, and then been called a scumbag because he is Jewish. He’s also been accused of being from Turkey. Gabe is achieving god-like status by being the consistent object of the fantasies of all these players 😛

      Also, hamza continues his roll of confusion by calling Ginobili a European. Hey, I forgot that Argentina joined the EU this year, thanks for reminding me! Next he claims that blacks who are descended from slaves aren’t real Americans. Wow, multiculturalism for the win!

      All in all, this is already one of the stupidest BiE threads of all time, and that’s really saying something 😛 Keep it classy, guys.

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  21. Locke
    12 years ago

    Ginobili’s parents are both from Italy. Meaning that you “Phileus” sound like an ignorant idiot. I won’t even comment on this Gabe douche, just reading a few of his posts makes it clear how racist he is.

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    • Phileus
      12 years ago

      LOLOLOLOL. So “immigration” and “naturalization” don’t exist, right? Why does Ginobili choose to play for Argentina? Maybe because he thinks he’s from Argentina? Maybe you should call him and correct him. This is the same group of idiots who claimed that Stojakovic was a great Greek player. By your logic regarding Ginobili, then, Stojakovic is really just a Serb player and Greek has no stake in his success 😛

      It’s pathetic to see backwards children from xenophobic cultures take bitter stabs at more successful multicultural societies. You’re literally like the racist rednecks here in the States; I can only hope, for the sake of your countries, that there are smarter people who regularly cut you down there too 🙂

      Your trolling posts have gone down in quality, I’m afraid. They’re just childish now, with no wit, and you’re running out of good ideas. I think you hit your peak in the Olympics. Try harder :

      Final score: 3.0/10

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  22. mike
    12 years ago

    Man, these Euro Flat Earthers are pathetic. Phileus is absolutely right, they have run out of arguments, it’s not even worth it. Same old Greece 101, USA 95 BS from a once in a lifetime Mayan Calendar rarish event in 2006. I mean , Greece has absolutely stunk up the place in international events since then. So we know 2006 was a fluke of nature. A freak. A mutant X-Men type event. Need I say more?

    The more these guys talk or write, the more exposed they are as the real racists. Unbelievable. Wow, but sad!

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  23. DallasTexasSaqartvelo
    12 years ago

    Ya, what’s the deal? Calling someone a racist scumbag and insinuating that Italian Jews are are racist scumbags actually is incredibly racist.

    Also, Hamza made derogatory comments toward homosexuals, African-Americans, and americans in general. Hamza, from what country do you hail? We’ll see if we can’t find some negative things to say about it hmmm? It’s only fair.

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  24. Jackson
    12 years ago

    Fenerbahce Ulker president Aziz Yıldırım was a guest at a football show on Turkish television NTVspor and he made shocking statements about Euroleague referees. Yıldırım said: ” Every referee that comes to Turkey to officiate a Euroleague game goes straight to Grand Bazaar. They buy expensive clothes, gifts and we pay for them. It’s like a tradition for euroleague referees because all other clubs did it in the past. I dare anyone-he’s talking about other Turkish clubs- to claim that they never did it. I can easily prove that each club has done that but it’s not for match fixing. In fact, Turkish Basketball Federation organizes this. They came here, we buy presents and sometimes lose the game. ”

    Aziz Yıldırım was on national television to talk about match fixing scandals in Turkey for the first time after he spent almost a year in prison.

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