• Home
  • FIBA
  • EuroLeague
  • NBA/NCAA
  • National Leagues
  • Podcast
  • Features
  • More
  • Contact

Grimag

  • FIBA
  • EuroLeague
  • NBA/NCAA
  • National Leagues
  • Podcast
  • Features
  • More

Seven (or eight) games on which 2012 Olympic basketball will turn

July 27, 2012

BallinEurope’s Official Fearless Predictions™ for 2012 Olympic basketball will be posted tomorrow, but with the 2012 Olympics opening ceremonies taking place tonight and the men’s competition tipping off on Sunday, BiE got out the virtual calendar to make time for the following seven (or eight) games, matches that should fundamentally shape the greater 30-game picture, the subsequent knockout tournament and the OFPs™ themselves. BiE’s keeping eyes peeled for…

• Argentina vs. Lithuania, July 29. The Olympic schedulers decided to place a couple of dandies on day one of men’s basketball play in a pair of games that will send two Group A teams scrambling immediately. Argentina looked impressive in friendlies in general and against Team USA, but this team’s weakness in 2012 is a traditional Lithuania strength.

Against the USA (and while things remained competitive against Spain), Team Argentina had just eight players seeing court time, with a heavy reliance on the NBA trio of Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola and Carlos Delfino. Transitional year or no, Lithuania has recovered from its equally-as-traditional adventure with injuries to build a respectable roster with scoring threats at least 10 deep. It’s unfortunate that Lithuania isn’t getting this game a bit later against a more haggard Argentine side.

• USA vs. France, July 29
• France vs. Argentina, July 31
• Lithuania vs. France, August 2
. France is saddled with probably the second-toughest opening three games (wait ‘til you see whose starting schedule is more grueling; there is no justice) in this Olympics, with the US, Argentina and Lithuania – not unlikely semifinalists all – on the slate.

Despite this early marathon, Les Bleus are still getting lotsa hype while sportsbooks are giving them third-shortest odds to win the tournament (said odds are around 28/1 or 30/1, but still), but BiE ain’t buying it. Perhaps BiE’s overrating the significance of one player, but the loss of top rebounder/defensive lynchpin/glue guy Joakim Noah may prove to be the biggest hole on a national team roster this side of Dwight Howard.

• Russia vs Brazil, August 2. BallinEurope’s choice for The Game of The First Round. If it’s possible for prospective no. 2 and 3 seeds to be underrated, these are textbook examples. Assuming that neither side pulls off the “upset” of Spain – which is not exactly a safe assumption, given performances in friendlies and that ever-memorable meeting at Eurobasket 2007 (see highlights below) with David Blatt’s boys against a similar Spanish side – this game will most assuredly determine final positioning for the knockout tournament.

No matter the ramifications going into the game, however, this should be one excellent 40 minutes with evenly-matched sides boasting excellent international-play point guards plus athleticism and physicality to spare in the frontcourt. Should be a good one.

• Spain vs. Russia, August 4. Lucky, lucky Spain. The defending European champions open against China, Australia and Great Britain to tune up for meetings with Group B’s other big dogs, Brazil and Russia. This alone could push Spain over the top in close ones, and a 5-0 run is not at all inconceivable. On the other hand, if Blatt can avoid having this game turn into a track meet – not Sergio Scariolo’s preferred style, by the way – Team Russia has a solid chance of shaking up the group and the tournament bracket.

Imagine the hype. It should run something like this: Russia versus Spain! A tactical battle between Blatt and Sergio Scariolo! A grind-it-out, edge-of-your-seat matchup! A rematch of ’07! The length of Andrei Kirilenko and the CSKA Moscow-heavy Russians against three NBA-starting big men! For first place in Group B! Et cetera!

• Great Britain vs China, August 6. Poor, poor, *poor* Great Britain. Recall Eurobasket 2011: As a last-minute addition when FIBA officials decided to expand the field to 24 teams, the Brits were put in a monster group. As though their chances for advancement out of pool play weren’t long enough already, schedulers had Team Britain play Lithuania, Turkey and Spain, the toughest opening run of that tournament and one which essentially eliminated the team before the game one programs came off the printer.

And now for something completely different? Not. After months of negotiation, wrangling and (most assuredly) pleading with the International Olympic Committee and FIBA, Britain’s automatic entry into the 2012 Games were assured – along with this tournament’s, um, most challenging opening three matches: against Russia, Brazil and Spain. Sigh.

Nevertheless. Pops, Luol and the boys went on to surprise observers of the Lithuanian tournament by taking consecutive wins against Portugal and Poland to finish fourth in its group. Should Britain manage to overcome Australia in game four, a second win here would clinch them the no. 4 spot, advancement and a probable date with Team USA in the first knockout game. Oh well.

If nothing’s at stake for Team Britain in this one, they’ll nevertheless be playing with pride for their first-ever Olympic basketball win. And if there’s one quality this team is long on, it’s pride.

• (Plus maybe) Argentina vs. USA, August 6. Imagine these teams meeting with 4-0 records while Ginobili channels 2004 … a classic in the making.

Jul 27, 2012ballineurope
Powered by Sidelines
Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
This post was published on July 27, 2012
The world’s shortest post on FC Barcelona’s acquisition of Sarunas JasikeviciusBallinEurope’s Official Fearless Predictions™: 2012 Olympic Basketball Group A
You Might Also Like
 
European basketball: "something between college basketball and NBA"
 
Ramunas Siskauskas gets a new T-shirt
Comments: 26
  1. James
    10 years ago

    I hate to be an a**hole but Great Britain have no hope. They don’t have a bad team but in the Olympics you have to have a pretty damn good squad to do anything. It’s all about Australia mate!!! I think Australia will surprise people. We have a team of players who play for some of worlds biggest ball clubs (Panathinaikos, Mens Sana and Barcelona just to name a few) and are physically conditioned to be one of the fittest in the tournament. Call me crazy but when Australia finish 4th in pool play and come up against a mighty USA in the quarterfinals I’m expecting Australia to not only give them a tough time but I’m expecting them to beat the yanks. If our backcourt limits turnovers and we take advantage of our frontcourt size we should be able to handle USA quite easily, assuming we knock down the occasional three of course. Aleks Maric is so physical down low and does such a great job sealing his man that I believe he will be the X factor in the game. I’ll be putting money on it if the match-up does take place and I’ll be coming out of it a richer man.

    ReplyCancel
    • Gabe
      10 years ago

      James you’re living in dream time. If Australia meets the US in the playoffs they’ll be hard pressed to lose by less than 30, which they haven’t been able to do the last couple times they met the US in elimination games. They stand a much better chance of placing better than 4th in their group than they have of even getting within 30 of the US.

      ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      As a fellow Australian, I think your mad.

      If, and its a big if,
      1. USA have a game where they just can’t hit 3’s,
      2. Their big’s get in foul trouble,
      3. Carmelo Anthony shoots way too much (and doesn’t make anything),
      4. Australia limits their T/O’s and slows the game down,
      5. Australia hits their 3’s
      6. Australia rebounds well.
      7. Australia fights on every possession ( no easy points or fast breaks)

      Australia could win, but by less than 5 at best

      ReplyCancel
  2. Rob
    10 years ago

    OS! Slow down there, Great Britain qualified for Eurobasket 2011 the hard way, topping their qualifying group that included everyone’s darlings Macedonia. It was Bosnia, Bulgaria, Georgia, Italy, Latvia, Poland and Ukraine that FIBA chucked in at the last minute (and Porugal and Finland even after that)

    ReplyCancel
  3. LG
    10 years ago

    Regardless of how Great Britain qualified for Eurobasket 2011, they do not deserve to be in the olympics in 2012. Their results in Eurobasket were not nearly good enough to justify an automatic bid just for being the host city. Not when the world competition is so good, and only 12 teams are allowed in. It’s a real shame that good teams like serbia and slovenia didn’t even get the chance to play in the qualifying tournament while Great Britain gets a free pass all the way to the olympics.

    ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      Welcome to the Olympics, where the home country automatically gets a bid.

      If you don’t like it, make up your own fictional Competition based on merit alone,

      Hang on a second, that’s the world championship isn’t it?

      ReplyCancel
      • Jonas
        10 years ago

        Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is the first time EVER when the host countries team qualifies automatically for the Olympics? Olympics has always been about achieving some set goals to get into them, whats the point of the whole thing if you dont have to qualify?

        ReplyCancel
        • Gabe
          10 years ago

          No every year the host country automatically qualifies. It’s just this this the first year the host country has been so bad in basketball. China. Greece, Australia, USA, Spain are all top 10 team while Great Britain is like #43!. All those team mentioned above qualified for the Olympics anyway this year except Greece which lost in a huge upset.

          ReplyCancel
  4. Kyle
    10 years ago

    Based on the goals set by FIBA back when the team was formed Great Britain has more than lived up to their obligations to be there. They even met the goals after FIBA added additional requirement, so they deserve to represent themselves.

    That said if they play more than five games I’ll be surprised. Spain, Brazil, Russia are easily better than them, and after seeing Australia play their prep games against Spain and France, I’d say they are too.

    ReplyCancel
  5. Vincent
    10 years ago

    Australia beat the USA? haha put the crack pipe down….

    ReplyCancel
  6. mike
    10 years ago

    James from Down Under, you gave me the best laugh of the day. Australia over the US? LOL

    ReplyCancel
  7. Jack
    10 years ago

    El Diablo says:
    July 28, 2012 at 9.36am

    Welcome to the Olympics, where the home country automatically gets a bid.

    If you don’t like it, make up your own fictional Competition based on merit alone,

    Hang on a second, that’s the world championship isn’t it?

    ————————————————————-

    Great Britain got a special pass from FIBA by request of the NBA (“marketing reasons”) to get into the tournament.

    Under FIBA rules, they did NOT qualify. Even the host nation has to meet certain qualifications, which they didn’t even come remotely close to meeting. FIBA just waived them and said they did.

    Because the NBA wants to break into the British market, and so does the Euroleague and FIBA does also.

    ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      Wahhhhhh baby wants it bottle.

      England, Greece, Slovakia, D/R, Costa Rica, Antarctica? who cares it doesn’t matter.

      Just deal with it

      ReplyCancel
      • Miguel
        10 years ago

        El Diablo says:
        July 30, 2012 at 6.07am

        Wahhhhhh baby wants it bottle.

        England, Greece, Slovakia, D/R, Costa Rica, Antarctica? who cares it doesn’t matter.

        Just deal with it

        wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

        British scum bag bitching as usual

        ReplyCancel
        • El Diablo
          10 years ago

          San Miguel you silly little beer

          I’m not British , if you have read the comments you would discover I’m Australian.

          I’m saying what is the point of complaining when it can’t be changed?

          ReplyCancel
  8. Jack
    10 years ago

    No every year the host country automatically qualifies. It’s just this this the first year the host country has been so bad in basketball. China. Greece, Australia, USA, Spain are all top 10 team while Great Britain is like #43!. All those team mentioned above qualified for the Olympics anyway this year except Greece which lost in a huge upset.

    —————————————————————————————————-

    You are once again a liar and totally full of shit. FIBA has very strict rules about host nations and what they have to do to qualify. The requirements were all waived for GB.

    There has NEVER been an automatic qualification granted by FIBA before to the host nation.

    ReplyCancel
  9. Jack
    10 years ago

    Kyle says:
    July 28, 2012 at 12.11am

    Based on the goals set by FIBA back when the team was formed Great Britain has more than lived up to their obligations to be there. They even met the goals after FIBA added additional requirement, so they deserve to represent themselves.

    That said if they play more than five games I’ll be surprised. Spain, Brazil, Russia are easily better than them, and after seeing Australia play their prep games against Spain and France, I’d say they are too.

    ————————————————————————-

    False. FIBA’s rules clearly state that you have to be ranked in the top 20 of the current world rankings at the time of the start of the tournament to get a direct bid as the host nation.

    FIBA waived this requirement for GB, and it is the first time they ever did so to my knowledge. This was done because the NBA pushed them very hard to do so because they want to break into the British media market.

    ReplyCancel
  10. Phileus
    10 years ago

    Australia over the US still sounds crazy, but you have to give them credit for putting up a heck of a fight against Brazil this morning. With Bogut, that game probably could have been theirs. Even without Bogut, their squad looks more solid than I would have expected.

    ReplyCancel
  11. Miguel
    10 years ago

    Australia always plays much better without Bogut.

    ReplyCancel
  12. Aussie NBA Fan
    10 years ago

    Message to: Americans mike, Gabe, and Phileus

    From Australia:

    Greece didn’t get just one bad call. They 4-5 HORRIBLE calls called against them in the last 2-3 minutes of the game. 2 in the last 3 seconds. Why were they down 1 with 3 seconds to go?

    Because Dagunduro did a clear offensive foul and instead of the refs calling him for it, they sent him to the free throw line. Otherwise, Greece should have been leading by 3 points with 3 seconds left.

    You sound like petulant little spoiled brats the way you keep trash talking and ridiculing people over that Greece vs. Nigeria game. I am Australian and I was watching that game online and I was absolutely stunned at how the refs stole that game for the Nigerian team.

    It was one of the most clearly rigged games I’ve seen in my life. It was like watching the 2002 NBA WCFs of Lakers against Kings all over again. I really think you need to shut up and quit bashing people that complain about that game.

    Because the refs rigged it without question. Hell, there was an 8 second violation by Nigeria at the end of the game and the refs didn’t even call it. Nigeria got the ball over the line one on possession towards the very end of the game at the 12 second mark. 12 seconds on the shot clock and the refs didn’t even call the 8 second violation. This cannot happen unless there is a purposely done game rigging by the refs.

    I really wonder what the hell is wrong with people like you three. You come here telling everyone that you are basketball fans, yet you are absolutely giddy, tickled, thrilled, and happy when one of the elite teams of world basketball gets blatantly stolen of the Olympics by the refs.

    So instead we get to see one more scrub team like Nigeria competing. Between the hosts GB, China, Tunisia, and Nigeria we have 4 awful scrub teams to watch. Then we have my Aussie team, which isn’t a scrub team, but still is definitely below the European teams like Greece in quality.

    I am sorry but I agree with the Euros here about you two. You are definitely NOT basketball fans. You are trolls. Because you obviously do NOT care about basketball at all. You are just coming here to attack and criticize Europeans on a daily basis.

    I don’t know what your malfunction is, but you definitely act like ugly Americans on a daily basis here. Any REAL and actual basketball fan would be furious that FIBA refs are intentionally knocking good teams out of the Olympics and making the already extremely watered down tournament even weaker. To the point even of being practically unwatchable in the early stage.

    USA versus Nigeria, Lithuania versus Nigeria, GREAT! What wonderful games to watch such a terrible team like Nigeria. Can’t imagine why any Euro nuts as you call them would have rather seen Greece instead.

    Since naturally anyone thinking that is both Euro and nuts according to freaks like you. Also I really find it hypocritical that yanks are saying no one should complain about the refs to the Greeks that visit here.

    Yanks are STILL complaining about the 1972 Olympic final, and that was a case where the refs didn’t actually help the Soviets, according to EVERYONE from outside the USA. Yanks are STILL bitching about that game and claiming the refs stole it from them, even though after numerous independent reviews FIBA has always claimed the refs did nothing to help the Soviets, and in fact actually helped the US.

    Compare that to this Greece – Nigeria game that you bloody ugly Americans keep telling Greeks to shut up about it. FIBA reviewed the game and almost immediately sent a letter of apology to Greece’s federation and admitted the refs blew the game with bad calls at the end.

    So, for a couple weeks some Greeks were naturally and understandably upset over the refs taking away their Olympics place, and you are here cussing them, telling them off, calling them crazy, making fun of them, etc. But you Americans are still going on about a game that happened 40 years ago and where no one from outside the USA has ever believed the refs actually blew the game.

    Your own precious Coach K bitched about the 1972 Olympic final to the media just 2 years ago, and here you are openly trashing the Greek coach in this website for being mad that the refs screwed his team over.

    You know what you are? I will tell you what you are. You are,

    HYPOCRITES

    HUGE HYPOCRITES

    SICKENINGLY HUGE HYPOCRITES

    Here we are even today with you calling Euro people nuts and telling them off over this and having the guts to call them trolls. I just want to vomit every time I have to read this idiocy from you fools. PLEASE just stop it.

    You are either 10 years old, racist (as some others say), or you are psychos. I don’t know which, but just stop it. I assure you that many people coming to read this site are incredibly sick of you. You are low-life trash and you are destroying the good will of international basketball and making basketball fans from all over the world hate every yank and every NBA fan.

    You really are three trashy individuals. I am so sick of reading your filth in this site that I am now actually hoping Team USA loses. I normally root for them, but now I think it would only be justice for them to lose, because it is clear that there is something very wrong with a lot of the NBA fans from the USA.

    I could not even use the word arrogant or ignorant, because you three are about 1000 times beyond that. Your trashy comments in this site have made enough bad karma against Team USA to last for a decade.

    ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      Maybe an Aussie, but methinks a Greek-Aussie, so there maybe a bias at work

      After all Melbourne has the largest Greek population outside of Greece

      I do love a good souvalki, is there a Nigerian equalivant?

      ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      HYPOCRITES is one of my favorite Greek basketball players

      However, MEDIOCRITY is their best player

      ReplyCancel
  13. FIBA
    10 years ago

    BTW, Gabe is NOT an American. I work at the FIBA website watching the comments sections. Gabe is from Turkey and pretends to be an American.

    His little friends Mike and Phileus might want to know that, while they are being so easily manipulated by him.

    ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      Gabe v ‘Aussie NAB fan’ and ‘Pissed off NBA fan’

      Ahhh the Greek/Turk rivalry raises its ugly head

      This must make ‘Ballineurope’ the electronic equivalent of Cyprus?

      ReplyCancel
  14. Pissed Off NBA Fan
    10 years ago

    If was FIBA I would fire every ref that worked that qualification tournament.

    Them rigging the tournament so Nigeria made it was the single worst decision in the history of FIBA.

    Watching USA versus Nigeria and their roster full of guys that are somewhere in the 2000-3000 best player in Europe range was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen in sports in my entire life.

    USA average margin of victory against Greece = 7 points

    USA beat Nigeria by 83.

    Seriously, at this point in time, FIBA and its corrupt bull shit has become the biggest disgrace in the whole world of sports.

    We don’t fucking want to see shit teams like Nigeria in the Olympics. STOP RIGGING IT SO THEY MAKE IT IN.

    BURN IN HELL FIBA.

    I can’t even watch this crap the Olympics basketball competition is so fucking awful. This shit is rigoddamndiculous.

    ReplyCancel
    • El Diablo
      10 years ago

      Are you the same guy who whinged on the EXACT same topic on www.hoops.com.au?

      Greece average losing margin of 7 points? Using your dumbass analogy, the USSR team would kick the USA ass! Note the USSR broke up in 1991.

      Greece would get spanked today (granted not by >30) because they are not the same team they were 4-8 years ago. Denial is not just a river in Egypt

      Further, if any country (and its fans) would stoop to paying off officials it would be Greece

      Maybe with their current crises they couldn’t afford to make bribes, while Nigerian had plenty of cash from their computer scams LOL

      ReplyCancel

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

ballineurope
10 years ago 26 Comments FIBA, More2012 Olympic Games, Andrei Kirilenko, Carlos Delfino, CSKA Moscow, David Blatt, Dwight Howard, Eurobasket 2007, EuroBasket 2011, Joakim Noah, Luis Scola, Luol Deng, Manu Ginobili, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Sergio Scariolo, Team Argentina, Team Australia, Team Brazil, Team Britain, Team China, Team France, Team Lithuania, Team Poland, Team Portugal, Team Russia, Team Spain, Team USA
Recent Posts
Wembanyama’s wild run
1 month ago
Markkanen the highlight of Europe’s stunning NBA All Star haul
1 month ago
Winning is a habit and Bonn’s players like it
1 month ago
Categories
Recent Posts
Wembanyama’s wild run
Markkanen the highlight of Europe’s stunning NBA All Star haul
Winning is a habit and Bonn’s players like it
Tags
EuroLeagueNBAYouTubeCSKA MoscowFC BarcelonaReal MadridFIBAOlympiacosZalgiris KaunasPanathinaikosACBSpainMaccabi Tel AvivTeam SpainRicky RubioLos Angeles LakersMontepaschi SienaPartizan BelgradeLithuaniaPau GasolTeam LithuaniaGermanyItalyTurkeyIrelandTeam FranceCaja Laboral BaskoniaLietuvos RytasFenerbahce ÜlkerJuan Carlos NavarroGreeceSan Antonio SpursTony ParkerFranceMinnesota TimberwolvesDirk Nowitzkibasketball highlightsTeam RussiaSerbiaTeam USAALBA BerlinEuroBasket 2011EuroCupBrose Baskets BambergDallas Mavericks
Share
0
Facebook
ABOUT
BallinEurope.com was founded in September 2007 by Christophe Ney (who now runs the excellent scouting-themed website European Prospects) and Tobias Seitz, both then bloggers for FIBA.com with over 10 years’ worth of experience in the professional basketball world each. The mission then was to “provide a very unique perspective of Basketball in and about Europe.”
Most Commented
Why Andrei Kirilenko and CSKA Moscow must win the Euroleague
11 years ago
180 Comments
Euroleague Transfers Table 2008/2009
15 years ago
168 Comments
A week in highlights: Spanish block party, mighty Milos, Utah rap and some dude dunking in L.A.
12 years ago
139 Comments
Archives
Get In Touch

Email: emmetryan@gmail.com

Name: Emmet Ryan

2014 © BallinEurope. Join JCI Dublin