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Barça back on track? Blaugrana get first win of 2012-13 against Dallas Mavericks, 99-85

October 10, 2012

Who says the preseason NBA/Euroleague games don’t matter? Certainly not BallinEurope readers, who are using the round of exhibition matches to compare relative levels of talent and play.

Well, more grist for the debate mill was produced last night as FC Barcelona surprised the Dallas Mavericks at the ‘Palau, 99-85. The occasion marked the third such triumph for the Spanish side in recent years and chases up the 2010 victory over the Los Angeles Lakers. Perhaps most significantly locally, even those a bit begrudging about European basketball may admit that this was a big win for Barça.

Elton Brand, starting for Dirk Nowitski, was good for 10 points and five rebounds; Nowitzki’s former Team Germany teammate Chris Kaman was high scorer for the Mavericks with 15. All Mavs were topped by the likes of Juan Carlos Navarro (looking in good form already; how old is this guy again?) and Pete Mickael, completely key to the Barça victory, who had 19 points apiece.

After a bit of a second-quarter run gave Barcelona a 52-50 lead at halftime, the Blaugrana opened things up in the third behind Mickael who outraced Kaman time and again to the bucket. The result was a 13-2 streak to make it 74-56 at halftime and a lead that Barça would never relinquish.

As Erazem Lorbek told media prior to the game, the match was key for Barcelona at this early stage in the season, with his team currently in a decidedly 13th place on the Liga Endesa table after losses to los Blancos de Rueda Valladolid and Gescrap Bizkaia Bilbao Basket in the first two weeks of play there.

With the Barcelona wins, Euroleague teams went a combined 2-6 in the 2012 Euroleague American and NBA Europe Live tours. It should be noted, however, that the two Ws were earned by two of the EL’s favorites for 2012-13 – Barça and Fenerbahçe Ülker – and that Real Madrid managed to run up 93 and 95 points in its North American games.

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Comments: 45
  1. Gabe
    13 years ago

    I know the troll is going to start saying that Euroleague 2-6 record against the NBA shows that it’s better (what kind of logic is that?), but seriously it shows that, at least the top Euroleague teams, can be competitive with NBA teams. The ACB teams are really competitive vs NBA teams. Barca’s victory being only the 2nd time an Euroleague team has beaten an NBA team by double digits.

    This also shows how much home court (and home continent) advantage is in these games. At home Euroleague teams are 7-9 against NBA teams (in fact two of those loses, although in Europe were not in the Euroleagues home court so really at home Euroleague is 7-7 .500) while in North America Euroleague is 2-32! Once Euroleague teams start winning games in North America we can start having discussion about the leagues being equal.

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  2. Phileus
    13 years ago

    And I’m going to say for the 1000th time that these games are utterly meaningless. Even if two victories came against a team that rested its five best players for the final quarter, or against a team that is now a fringe playoff team even with its star playing.

    People acknowledge that few NBA players take all 82 regular season games seriously, and you want to say that they take *preseason* games seriously?

    It doesn’t matter if the NBA-Euroleague record were 8-0, 4-4, 0-8. Sure, I agree with your conclusion that top Euroleague teams can be competitive with NBA teams. But I don’t think that’s “proven” by an uncompetitive preseason tour.

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  3. Nemesis
    13 years ago

    Nothing to see here…just another incredibly overrated NBA team, full of incredibly overrated NBA players getting schooled by a Euroleague team.

    Just as expected.

    Euroleague > NBA

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      Nothing to see here…just more incredibly overrated Euroleague teams, full of incredibly overrated Euroleague players getting schooled by NBA teams 6 out of 8 games.

      Just as expected. Seems to follow the pattern of Euroleague teams winning 20% of their games against NBA teams so NBA teams are 5 X better.

      NBA > Euroleague

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  4. Gabe
    13 years ago

    The problems with trolls is they don’t listen to reason or understand simple math. He points to the two games that Euroleague teams beat NBA teams and says the NBA teams are overrated, failing to mention that the NBA teams won 6 out of the 8 interleague exhibition games. In Europe, Euroleague plays the NBA pretty close although they still have a losing record but when NBA teams have home court they totally dominate, losing only 2 times out of about 30! Even the worse NBA teams, like the Cavs and the Raptors whip up on Euroleague at home.

    But trolls ignore that. They just concentrate on the one game. And I’m sure the same thing would go for FIBA play as well. Poor troll has had to go through 6 years and 3 competitions where the US has not lost a game. But I’m sure if and when the US finally loses a game, no matter how many gold medals they have won in a row or how many tournaments they have gone undefeated in, if and when they finally lose a game this troll will be saying how overrated the US is and how they got schooled by whatever team.

    But this summer really was a great summer because for the rest of the year we can always respond with…
    The Olympic qualifying event? Nothing to see there…just another incredibly overrated Greek team, full of incredibly overrated Greek players getting schooled by an African team.

    Just as expected.

    African basketball > Greek basketball

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  5. mike
    13 years ago

    Pre-season basketball is meaningless. I tend to agree with Phileus. Hey Rick, Nemesis, Apollo or whoever you are, I have a question for you.

    Do you think a bunch of college all-stars are better than the legendary 1992 Dream Team of Jordan, Bird, Magic? Well, because the first game the Dream Team ever played was an exhibition game, and they were routed by College All stars led by Chris Webber and a bunch of borderline NBA type players.

    Any meaning to that game you think? It’s now just a footnote in history. Trivia.

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      A bit about that game that was showed on the special about the dream team. The game was a scrimmage not an exhibition game so there was no set time. Once the college players got a lead Chuck Daly called the game because he wanted the dream team to feel what it is like to lose.

      But yes it’s a lot easier for Euroleague players to shine in games that don’t count. In FIBA games that count the Euroleague show their true colors. Lorbek and Slovenia getting their asses kicked by Lithuania and Spain and Teodosic, Krstic and Serbia getting their asses kicked by Russia and Greece and neither even making the Olympic qualifying event. McCalebb and Macedonia getting their ass kicked by Dominican Republic and Spanoulis and Greece getting their asses kicked by Nigeria and neither making the Olympics. Navarro getting shut out in the 2nd half by a 34 year old Kobe in the gold medal game.

      And Diamantidis, after him and Spanoulis with Greece got their asses kicked in 2010 with an 11th place finish decided he was tired of getting embarrassed in competition with NBA players and retired from FIBA play so now he just competes in Euroleague where he won’t get exposed by NBA role players like Ilyasova.

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  6. Blabla
    13 years ago

    Nba in general is still far ahead of EL. But good EL teams(Oly,Real,Barca) could have comepte for a Playoff spot in east imo.

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      Yeah I agree. After watching Euroleague teams in the preseason I would say that perhaps the best Euroleague teams could compete to be in the playoffs in the East. Take into consideration the team that Barca beat, the Mavs without Dirk, would probably be one of the worst teams in the NBA.

      That being said Euroleague seems top heavy. There are maybe 4 or 5 teams in Euroleague that can compete in the NBA while the other 20 would be uncompetitive, just look at San Antonio’s 29 point destruction of Montepaschi Siena or the Celtics 30 point dismantling of Olimpia Milano on their own home court. I mean if a 14 point victory is getting schooled what are 29 and 30 point victories? Getting kindergartnened?

      On a different topic tonight Maccabi Haifa starts their two game tour against the NBA. What is up with that? There must be some connection with Haifa and the NBA to get this gig because Haifa is not a top European team. Maybe it is because the NBA wanted to play an Israeli team for the Jewish fans base and Tel Aviv wasn’t available but after Tel Aviv the Israeli league has no other good teams. I mean these NBA teams might as well be playing against an intramural teams from the YMCA. I don’t see how such low level competition can help the teams prepare for the NBA season. It’s all about $.

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  7. Phileus
    13 years ago

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say these teams can make the playoffs.

    Someone else put it best in another thread: on any given night, a top Euroleague team could beat a top NBA team.

    But a whole season isn’t “any” given night, it’s 82 given nights. Yes, no matter what Mr. Troll says, the NBA regular season is longer than the seasons played by Euroleague teams – playoffs included. The long grind is different than the isolated exhibition game.

    That said, I wouldn’t totally discount the possibility either (esp. teams led by players like Navarro, Rudy or Sergio Rodriguez, who’ve all done at least one NBA season). I just don’t like that people get their data from preseason games only.

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      Yeah I didn’t say make the playoffs. I mean compete to make the playoffs but they could also compete not to have the worst record in the league. The thing is they have real problems on the road so it will be hard to make the playoffs not winning any games on the road.

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  8. Blabla
    13 years ago

    The thing with the bad score (32-2) for Euro teams is that when they play in America they play under the Nba rules. When they play in Europe they play under mix rules. Would be fun to watch what the score would be if Nba teams would play strictly under the EL rules in Europe. IMO the score would be a lot higher for Euro teams.
    Send top 5 teams from Europe to Nba and give them a year so they can adjust and a Euro team would be quit capble of making the playoffs…

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      The rules now are pretty similar about from the goal tending and defensive 3 second. I mean Team USA with all NBA players plays under EL rules and they still dominate so I don’t think the change of rules makes too much of a difference.

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  9. Blabla
    13 years ago

    Sorry that’s not true. Rules are not simmilar. Cream of the cream of Nba players really dominated and there is no question about it. But once again. I’m not talking about an EL team winning the NBA I said that the best EL teams would have a legit chance at going to th playoffs in the EAST.

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  10. mike
    13 years ago

    Okay, maybe the in the East, and if they were allowed to play defensive 3 seconds which is the key rule change which makes European teams instantly competitive with the NBA. Without this rule, sorry, too many Euro players lack individual defensive skills, with the exception of a select group like Kirelenko, Rubio etc..

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  11. Jeff
    13 years ago

    I respect FC Barcelona and they play a very high level of ball. But the only people really comparing leagues and analyzing games are Euroleague fans. Let me be clear – NBA teams and fans do not care about these games AT ALL. They are just getting back together and trying to work back into shape. They couldn’t care any less if they loss a preseason game. These games are much bigger to the Euroleague because they want to prove they can compete. NBA teams and fans DO NOT CARE AT ALL about these games and they certainly don’t compare leagues because to anyone with sense the NBA is clearly the best league in the world with the best players, hands down. With all due respect to Europe’s top teams of course, because they can be competitive.

    There is so many games in the preseason and regular season for the NBA it is impossible to give a 100% effort every night or just care as much in general. Euroleague teams play very seldomly, so these individual games are naturally a lot bigger for them and their fans. NBA teams were playing just their first or second preseason games also after just a couple days in camp while Euroleague has already started the season and gone through camp. If these leagues were close, the NBA teams should lose every time because they simply are not AT ALL prepared to play good basketball at this time of the year.

    I find it hilarious too when people make judgements off of these games. Barca beat the Mavs – who had 9 new players and were without Dirk. Without Dirk, this team is easily one of the worst in the NBA hands down. Last preseason, not unlike this one, the Lakers were also getting blown out by everyone. The Timberwolves destroyed them way worse than Barca; and the Timberwolves were easily one of the, if not the worst team in the league. Does this mean the Timberwolves are better than the Lakers because they destroyed them in preseason? Are the Lakers going to suck this year because they have lost every game in their preseason. Of course not. What’s my point? You CANNOT draw anything from these meaningless games.

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  12. Locke
    13 years ago

    What a bunch of fucking morons…….

    Olympiacos will beat ANY NBA team in a 7 game series playing with all NBA rules and NBA refs.

    PERIOD.

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    • Phileus
      13 years ago

      Cool story bro!

      It took a few years, but luckily nobody here seems takes you seriously anymore. Did you give up on being a good troll? Because I have to take my hat off to you – you had a pretty good run there for a while 😛

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  13. Johnny Angel
    13 years ago

    OMFG…………..

    Maccabi Haifa only lost to the Golden State Warriors by 8 points in USA? WTF?

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    LMFAO at NBA right now.

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      OMFG…..
      Montepaschi Siena lost to the San Antonio Spurs by 29 points? WTF?
      Olimpia Milano lost to the Boston Celtics by 30 points in Milan? WTF?
      hahahahahahahahahahahaha
      LMFAO at Euroleague right now.

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  14. Andrea
    13 years ago

    I was at the Celtics game in Milan and, even though the game was a blowout, I had a blast. Great atmosphere, great fans, most of them decked out in Celtics gear. Just awesome. And this comes from someone who’s not even a Celtics fan.

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  15. Geoffrey
    13 years ago

    You can’t draw anything from these NBA preseason games guys. I know it would be fun to, and I love both the Euroleague and NBA, but these games aren’t a big deal for NBA clubs and they aren’t yet playing good basketball. Barca played great and got a great win. But Dirk Nowitzki didn’t even play and another Mav’s starter (OJ Mayo) apparantly injured himself falling down the stairs before the game. Mayo went on to play and have a horrible game. Also Mav’s starting center Chris Kaman has been fighting back spasms and chemistry has been severely lacking everywhere.

    What we need is some mid-season games or even a series between the leagues so that everyone has developed chemistry and is in good form. Then we can truly make comparisons. But I don’t think it’s fair to the NBA when they have just started playing to make judgements off of these games. I do enjoy watching these games though.

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  16. Jack
    13 years ago

    The Euroleague has requested official games with the NBA numerous times. The NBA has always refused. This won’t ever happen simply because the NBA is afraid of it.

    They know as soon as they lose some official in season games or a world championship that the NBA fake image they have crated through marketing will be shattered.

    I have no idea why so many people actually think the NBA would ever allow real games with the Euroleague to occur.

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      Hmmm very interesting.

      Now show a link to back-up what you said about Euroleague requesting official with the NBA and the NBA refusing and I might actually believe it. lol

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      • BED
        13 years ago

        FIBA and the Euroleague both approved of a world club championship, as did some others like the league in Australia, the Americas league, etc.

        It WAS approved and passed. But the NBA BLOCKED it from happening. That world championship was kept in place for a whole 2 years after that, with the requests going to the NBA and they continued to block it.

        Finally, FIBA scrapped it and it never happened. FIBA said they even offered a $10 million pay to the NBA to participate and a prize of $5 million to the winning team of the tournament. The NBA still refused to participate and still blocked the tournament.

        So it never happened. So yes, the NBA definitely blocked an official tournament that the Euroleague had asked for. And considering the money at stake, it is extremely suspicious that they did that, if they are not concerned at all with getting beat. if they really thought they could just waltz through a world tournament, then they would have not turned down $15 million.

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        • Gabe
          13 years ago

          Again link please?

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  17. Geoffrey
    13 years ago

    I was not pretending to know whether these games could occur or not, I was suggesting that for us to make REAL comparisons it needs to be mid-season or postseason games where both teams are ready to play. NBA teams are just getting back together and dusting off the cobwebs. They aren’t putting a max effort forth in preseason, they haven’t developed chemistry, and they’re just plain out of shape. While I do strongly believe that the best of Euroleague could beat NBA teams in the regular season for sure, I doubt anyone in Euroleague could take down a team like the Miami Heat in a series or several of the other top franshises/playoff teams.

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  18. Geoffrey
    13 years ago

    Uh I’m not sure 10 million dollars constitutes an offer the NBA can’t refuse, doesn’t seem like a huge amount of money considering the wealth of the league. When might such a tournament have taken place? The NBA season is very long and taxing, maybe to the point where it wouldn’t even be fair to throw teams into another tournament after the playoffs. Even so, I strongly doubt a top NBA team could be beat in a series. If it was single elimination, top Euroleague competition might have a small chance. Honestly though, the NBA probably just isn’t interested in any projects like these. They don’t care about comparing leagues. In my opinion, the NBA simply considers itself to be the center of the basketball universe. Everyone else to them is not really on the same level.

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    • Niko
      13 years ago

      NBA could have made huge money off that in TV rights. So that they refused it is very strange. It seems like they are absolutely scared to play in it, knowing that as soon as they lost a game, all of their image as “best league of the world” will be gone.

      So they simply think all the money they can make from this is not worth losing their golden image. It is pretty easy to figure that out. Euroleague and any other league like the ones from Oceania and Latin America would have nothing to lose in such a tournament. The NBA would have its untouchable media image to lose.

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      • Gabe
        13 years ago

        There was some talk of having a FIBA World Club Champion,
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_World_Club_Championship

        sort of like the McDonald’s Championship from 87-99 (which the NBA went undefeated in btw) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_Championship

        But the World Clb Champion never materialized. And even if they did it would have had Eurochallenge teams from Europe since it would have been run by FIBA which is not associated with Euroleague or Eurocup (which why would the NBA be involved since they aren’t run by FIBA either). So it wouldn’t have been a top notch tournament not having the second best league in the world (Euroleague) in it anyway.

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        • Gabe
          13 years ago

          And also like the McDonald’s Championship it would have had an “NBA invite”, not necessarily an NBA champion but at least a top level NBA team would be more than enough to win, like all 9 Mc Donald”s Championships.

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        • Niko
          13 years ago

          Why do you keep lying here? That is the tournament and it was supposed to be official, nothing like the McDonald’s tournament, but an official world title. The EuroChallenge teams were only there to compete because the NBA REFUSED to accept it.

          So the Euroleague said they would not bother since the NBA refused to play in it. The Euroleague spent 2 years asking the NBA to play in it and they just gave up. After that, FIBA just said to hell with it.

          Here you are twisting this totally around into another bullshit fake story.

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          • Gabe
            13 years ago

            Could you send me a link to back-up this claim because I have never heard it.

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  19. Phileus
    13 years ago

    I personally think it would be really cool to see such a tournament, as long as it were done in a meaningful way, but I think it’s literally impossible to incentivize NBA teams (even putting the league office aside) to take this seriously.

    To bring this conversation back to reality, though, in any event it would be against the current NBA CBA for the NBA to force its *teams* to participate in any inter-league tournament of that kind. They’d have to renegotiate this in the next round of arguments with the NBAPA, and I don’t think they would be willing to force their players to participate in a meaningless tournament that its players would get no extra salary for. The NBA has no incentive to make this a sticking point in negotiations. $10 million? Lol.

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    • Niko
      13 years ago

      This is just you making up nonsense excuses.

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      • Phileus
        13 years ago

        Well I don’t really care what Niko thinks, but to anyone who’s interested in learning more about how the NBA works, here’s the link 🙂

        http://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005

        Look at Article XX section 2(a), limiting the number of exhibition games per season to eight, including intra-squad scrimmages that are open to the public. Also check out Exhibit A, the model player contract, and look at the services required of each player. Again the number of exhibition games is capped – a team can’t force a player to play in games he hasn’t been contracted to play in.

        So even if the NBA tried to force any of its teams to participate in off-season tournaments, those teams would be at a competitive (and financial!) disadvantage going into the regular season because the player contracts, as negotiated with the NBPA, wouldn’t allow them to play any preseason games at all.

        We don’t even need to get to that point, though. If you think the NBA owners hate the Olympics, what do you think their reaction would be to having them rent their entire teams out for a whole tournament essentially for free (again, $10 million? Not even worth discussing). Then see how the NBAPA would react – players would be expected to play more meaningless games in the offseason, at the same salary.

        Basically, neither the NBA side nor the players’ association side has any reason to change this rule. Like I said, I really would be interested in serious tournaments of this sort, but nobody has given me a logical reason why it could ever be possible. Even if NBA teams did participate, they would just treat them like they do preseason games right now.

        (By the way, these are sections from the 2005 CBA, but I can’t find the 2011 one. These parts haven’t changed at all, though.)

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        • Gabe
          13 years ago

          Yeah and when would this tournament be? Before the start of the season when teams are not at their best and still getting to know one another. When the championship teams from last year have different players then when they won?

          Or at the end of the season? I know in Euroleague once a team reaches the final 4 they only have to play 2 more games to win but in the NBA the teams that reach the “final 4” have to play 8-14 more games to win the championship. Are they really going to want to play more games for a “world championship”? This year Wade and Bosh from the NBA champions Heat were too banged up to play for Olympic gold. And I’m sure Olympic gold means more to them than a club championship when they just won the championship from the best league in the world.

          I mean this troll Niko says the NBA is scared to do it. Scared is the wrong word, they just don’t care. Teams in other leagues, of course would by up for it so they could prove they can compete against the best team in the world but for NBA teams why would they care to play against the champions from a league whose MVP was Kirilenko.

          You might say the same thing about Team USA. They really have nothing to win and everything to lose by playing but it’s different. The players are playing for their countries so it’s different than playing for your club team. They get to play with other NBA stars, etc…A team that just won a championship in the best league in the world would have no desire to compete against champions from weaker leagues. And also people in the US would not care about it either so there would be no incentive at all.

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        • BED
          13 years ago

          You are full of shit, just like Niko said.

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          • Gabe
            13 years ago

            Hmmm…Why do I suspect you and Niko are the same person.

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  20. BED
    13 years ago

    “I know in Euroleague once a team reaches the final 4 they only have to play 2 more games to win but in the NBA the teams that reach the “final 4″ have to play 8-14 more games to win the championship”

    You really like to lie don’t you? European teams still have to play the end of the national league and their ENTIRE playoffs after the Euroleague final four you moron.

    Everything said about you here is true. You are a huge liar.

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      Every European team has to play the end of their national league and the playoffs. I am just commenting how the Euroleague champions have to play only 2 more games then the rest of the league while the NBA champions have to play 8-14 more than the rest of the NBA and don’t forget every NBA game is 8 minutes longer.

      And what’s up with calling me a moron and a liar. Are you still in grade school or something? lol

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  21. Geoffrey
    13 years ago

    I think Phileus makes some great points about the CBA which I hadn’t even begun to think about – its pretty clear that a tournament of this nature is virtually impossible considering that. I gotta disagree with Niko about the image of the NBA being ruined over one game though. Horrible teams in the NBA routinely upset far superior opposition during the NBA regular season, but nobody is going to take too much from a single game or conclude that the horrible team is now somehow better than the team they beat. Teams have off nights. For instance, nobody believes that the Bobcats are better than than the teams they managed to beat last NBA season. Sure it would be a big deal for the Euroleague, but for the NBA, I doubt they care that much, fans included

    The same unfair pressure is on Team USA, who are forced to consider losing a game a failure. If they lose once, people make too big a deal out of it. One game should not change your entire reputation. You need a series to fairly come to conclusions about who is truly more talented.

    Maybe, and I know nothing about how this works, but maybe in a decade or so if the NBA is looking to expand overseas they could add a few teams from the Euroleague for a season or something. Maybe merge the leagues. Haha its laughable and stupid I know, but David Stern has show interest in expanding the league beyond just Canada and the US. Who knows what scenarios could unfold and what they could mean for European basketball?

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  22. BED
    13 years ago

    If the NBA ever lost an official world championship game to a Euroleague team, it would immediately be the end of the whole world believing the NBA is a superior league and the Euroleague is an inferior league.

    It would be just like when the Jets won the Superbowl. To deny that is just being naive. The average basketball fan around the world truly believes in a fake and imaginary marketing gimmick that the NBA is a super league and Euroleague is a minor league.

    Just one loss and that ends instantly. The NBA knows it too. So this isn’t going to happen, unless a totally different management takes over the NBA. Stern is an absolute control freak, so it definitely won’t happen under him, or under anyone he had working for him.

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    • Geoffrey
      13 years ago

      I don’t know BED I disagree. Most people who know anything about basketball know that Euroleague is at a very high level right now and still improving. Sure, the NBA is the best league in the world, but I think the best teams in the Euroleague like Barca could certainly compete in the NBA. Again, no matter what the sport, to suggest that a single loss for the NBA could be that significant is pretty big stretch in my opinion. NBA coaches were giving the Euroleague teams plenty of respect in their exhibition games also. Again, NBA is definitely the best league in the world, but Euroleague ball deserves plenty of respect

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    • Gabe
      13 years ago

      Yeah I think the fans around the world’s correct opinion was solidified this summer when team USA filled with NBA stars went undefeated in their 3rd straight tournament while Team Greece with the Euroleague MVP and 3 other players from the Euroleague champions were eliminated in the Olympic qualifying tournament by the Nigerian team that lost by 83 points to team USA.

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BallinEurope.com was founded in September 2007 by Christophe Ney (who now runs the excellent scouting-themed website European Prospects) and Tobias Seitz, both then bloggers for FIBA.com with over 10 years’ worth of experience in the professional basketball world each. The mission then was to “provide a very unique perspective of Basketball in and about Europe.”
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