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Baumann of FIBA/IOC levies more demands on British basketball

September 19, 2010

Oh boy, does Britain need Ben in 2011

Despite the fact that Team Britain has managed to qualify for 2010 Eurobasket tournaments on both men’s and women’s sides, FIBA secretary-general/International Olympic Committee member Patrick Baumann has placed yet another condition to be met in exchange for bids at the 2012 Olympic Games.

According to today’s Scotsman newspaper via a letter sent from Baumann to Basketball Scotland vice-chairman Bill McInnes, Baumann now demands as prerequisite to Olympic entry “that a single governing body in Britain is established for basketball” uniting programs from England, Scotland and Wales.

While the three bodies agreed on an informal structure to create united teams at the national and U20 levels back in 2005, Baumann “wants a radical overhaul of the way the sport is organised in order to translate its oft-cited grassroots popularity into sustainable success at club and international level” and the current way of fielding FIBA basketball teams “cannot be continued after the Games in 2012.”

Baumann’s letter went on to state that “There needs to be one boss, one organisation that leads. I don’t think that means the three federations as such need to disappear. They have their role, but it must be under one umbrella, with clearly defined responsibilities on developing basketball. We need to have one partner that has the clear vision so that when it comes to the table with FIBA or the British Olympic Association, they have the credibility to say what is good for basketball in England, Scotland and Wales.”

Despite the fact that Baumann himself is “relatively confident” the British powers-that-be can live up to this latest round of expectations, the timeframe does seem a bit tight: The IOC will be voting in March to decide whether or not to give Team Britain an automatic bid for the London Olympics.

If the IOC decides not to grant the official bid, Team Britain would then presumably have to at very least qualify out of pool play in Eurobasket 2011 or even grab a wild-card entry to the Olympics, two scenarios with varying degrees of possibility from next-to-none to darn unlikely at best.

Baumann’s latest idea is the most recent of a flow of demands put on Team Britain in the buildup to the 2012 Games. Before the recent Eurobasket qualifying rounds, it was essentially implied that Britain needed to make a respectable showing in an upcoming international tournament.

When both the men’s and women’s sides got through on the same day, the official FIBA website itself proclaimed that “Looking to make statements about the potential of the national teams to compete at the Olympics should they both be allowed by basketball’s world governing body, FIBA, to take up spots normally reserved for host nations for the London Games, the Brits were loud and clear.”

Prior to this, in what Back British Basketball’s Sam Neter is calling a “constant moving of the goalposts” by FIBA, Team Britain had been informally promised an Olympic spot if they qualified for Eurobasket 2009; prior to *that*, rising to Division A level in FIBA play was thought to have been enough.

Baumann fittingly said that the “radical overhaul” will “require some creative thinking.”

One wonders if the creative thinking will also be enough to anticipate Baumann’s next move…

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Comments: 9
  1. Phil
    14 years ago

    What a bunch of garbage. Clearly, FIBA does not want Great Britain taking up a spot that they think could go to a “better” European team. They keep raising the bar and it should come as no surprise that this latest demand comes on the heels of Team USA winning Worlds (had a European team won, that would have given Europe the additional Olympic berth, rather than the Americas). I hope GB pulls off the upset of upsets and somehow fairs well enough at Eurobasket to have qualified the hard way. That would stick it to FIBA.

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  2. stavros
    14 years ago

    Scotland and Wales are not countries: END OF DISCUSSION.

    This is not football with its idiotic “we invented the game so we get 4 teams in” rule which is embarassing for a international federation.
    You dont see the americans asking for a national team, one from Illinois, one from Indiana and one from California as well because they invented the game?
    You dont see teams from Quebec and Basque country play in FIBA?
    So its ONE team from the islands…. the one that is a country.

    BRITAIN has done nothing to show that basketball is anything but an afterthought and still it stays on the periphery of teams sports like volleyball, waterpolo, handball and basketball.
    No one who follows basketball cares or wants to see the british team. its a non-starter like lets say that sports banana republic called Canada which are incapable of having any sports league of their own.

    I think Montenegro with their 800,000 population would wipe the floor with a british team.
    We have way too many weak sisters in basketball that we dont care about, its not because one speaks english that were supposed to care.

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    • ukraps fan
      14 years ago

      shut yer mouth stavros
      England, Wales and Scotland have been around longer than your tinpot country. 3 countries united under one Queen and one Parlaiment.

      Big difference

      Should Faroes Island merge with Denmark. Puerto Rico play as part of the USA

      ignorant peasant

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  3. Dzoni
    14 years ago

    what are you now whinig england is nothing in basketball.and casue there is only 12 spots in olimpics,you must deserved it like everybody else… you got some good players,but you need a couch and some good perimiter player besides deng,first prove in 2011 that you can play good .. then if you do that you will get the qualification,that is fair enought i am not saying that fiba is fair . fiba is one big courapted shit,but you must take in consideration that you are week in basketball,so you don’t have big influence i hope you can play well in eurobasket 2011,and beat some good teams,so good luck!!!

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  4. Peter
    14 years ago

    They have to finish at least 7th and to make it to the qualifying tournament. Then they have to be one of the 4 teams that gets through as a wild card. It’s that simple. They do NOT deserve an automatic place at all. There is no way you can compare them to Spain (1992), USA (1996), Australia (2000), Greece (2004), China (2008)…………..they all had very long established and proven teams in the sport.

    Great Britain basketball is in existence in any competition since what, like 2008 at the qualifying round to get into EuroBasket division A? If they get an automatic spot just because a couple NBA players like Deng and Gordon want to play then the NBA dominating everything in FIBA is rapidly becoming a joke.

    You cannot have a good European team missing the Olympics just to play to what David $tern wants, which is his NBA getting a market in London. The NBA and it’s ridiculously stupid and bankrupt marketing schemes are starting to destroy FIBA just like they destroyed the NBA and bankrupted it.

    Now they want to save themselves by getting their parasitic tentacles into FIBA. The 2010 FIBA World Championship was proof of that. With a rigged competition to get USA versus the host country and the result was the worst world championship quality wise I have ever seen and most FIBA fans won’t watch anymore because of it they are so pissed off. But hey, $tern got his money by opening that Turkish market up, FIBA got their money by the NBA and Turkish Federation paying them off, and Team USA gets to pretend that they won a “legit competition”. If this keeps up FIBA will cease to exist within 5-10 years. Because the ONLY people that are interested in this mafia fake crap are NBA fans.

    Great Britain should be made to qualify just like everyone else. They have definitely not earned an automatic bid and should not get one just because the NBA is drooling over them as a potential money making market to help save the $400 million in debt NBA.

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  5. Phil
    14 years ago

    Three things:

    1) If FIBA had established ONE SET of requirements from the get-go, that would be one thing. This constant raising of the bar is a joke.
    2) Look at other Olympic sports. The U.S. got to have a handball team in Atlanta in ’96 for crying out loud! Also, you guys are proving my point that this FIBA block of GB is ALL about Europe. If Fiji was hosting the Olympics, you’d have no problem letting them get an automatic bid, because it wouldn’t be taking a spot away from Europe. I’m a firm believer that if the host Olympic country can put a team together, they ought to be able to compete.
    3) @ Peter … wow, just wow ….

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  6. Dzoni
    14 years ago

    Peter you are right FIBA and NBA are bullshits you said all the truth,as far as england getting qualification… DESERVED IT and then wee should speak,it would be such a shame that UK gets free qualification,they don’t know how to drble a ball,go to eurobasket and prove everyone that you deserv to be there and that is IT.

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  7. Andrew
    14 years ago

    What the heck does Stern have to do with anything now, Peter? Why some anti-NBA people are so obsessed to put Stern into every single thing and blame him and the NBA in general for every single expletive thing that doesnt go their expletive way? As an NBA fan, this thing pisses me off to no end. Just shut up.

    It’s up to FIBA to decide whether England shoud be in the Olympics or not. Stern doesn’t have any say in FIBA matters just like FIBA doesn’t have any say in NBA matters (see the Nenad Krstic suspension thing). That’s a fact.

    As far as the World Championship, I dont see what Stern has to do with Turkey getting into the gold medal game (Turkey already was a solid NBA market well before this tournament so it’s not like Turkey’s run opened up another market for the NBA). Stern does NOT run FIBA and its referees. Are you aware of it or not? ARE YOU AWARE OF IT OR NOT? Chances are he wasn’t even watching the game (highly probable since the game wasn’t even broadcast in the U.S.) so wtf does he have to do with anything?

    And Team USA deserved to win. Heck, besides the Brazil game, they easily won every game. So how exactly refs are the reason they won, especially considering I saw MANY calls going AGAINST them?

    And don’t give me the crap that several international teams were missing some of their best players since the U.S. can claim the same. Besides Durant (who, by the way, didn’t have any international experience) they missed ALL of their best players. So don’t give me that crap. Don’t even dare.

    You’re a conspiracy nut with a huge inferiority complex to the NBA so you blame them for every single thing that does not go your way in international hoops. It’s that simple. You don’t need to be an expert in psychology to realize that.

    ps: The NBA claims its teams lost $400 millions but you need to read in-between the lines since there’s a huge fight between the NBA and the players’ association going on right now since each side wants to get an advantage in the next collective bargaining agreement. We don’t know how much truth is there in it. But we know one thing: the NBA set record revenues in ’09-10, not to mention the past season was one of the highest rated in at least 15 years (both regular season and playoffs) as far as TV ratings are concerned. And the NBA just signed, among the others, a 100-million deal with a spanish bank..not exactly what a bankrupted league as you foolishly claim would do.

    You and your unjustified NBA hatin’ are pathetic.

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  8. Andrew
    14 years ago

    oh yeah, Peter, I’m quite sure FIBA would be better off to see Team USA losing rather than easily winning in most of its competition? Don’t you think?

    And to debunk your theory (as if there was any need), as soon as the Worlds were over Baumann basically blamed NBA teams and its owners for discouraging certain players from joining the event. So this clearly proves the NBA and FIBA aren’t kissing each other’s butts and, clearly, aren’t doing business together. So you can take your conspiracy theories and shove them up where the sun doesn’t shine.

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