Go, went, gone – or Prokom Trefl

December 11, 2007

It should have been a good season for Prokom. They invested a lot of money in new players and clearly wanted to be a part of the Top16 if not more. So let’s face the reality:

– Prokom wins: 1
– Prokom losses: 6 – which means last place in Group A
– next game against CSKA Moscow – leader of Group A

So much for the statistics. What about the personnel? As we know they fired a few players such as American Travis Best (who just signed with La Fortezza Bologna), Wolkowyski and Harissis. I am sure we also can add some other names soon.

Since it is not enough to just fire players – Prokom’s coach, Eugeniusz Kijewski, got fired, who is now rumored to be the Polish national coach.

Looking good for Prokom, isn’t it? No coach, no players – what else would you need to play basketball? Yeah, that’s right, an arena! Even this was taken from Prokom now. As this web site tell us today, “Oliwia” arena was closed, because arena can collapse.

I guess that is a pretty bad sign, when not only the club is about to collapse – but also your arena..

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Comments: 5
  1. elaj
    19 years ago

    There was an incident which probably not many peoplesaw when Prokom played Olimpija in Tivoli arena. Wagner punched Harissis during the last timeout of Prokom’s coach and they started to fight verbaly. Then some of their teammates calmed them down.

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  2. elaj
    19 years ago

    The incident wasn’t taped and couldn’t be seen on TV.

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  3. alex
    19 years ago

    The American expression is “Going, going, gone!” with or without the exclamation point.

    Does anyone know the budget of Prokom Trefl? How does it compare to the top Italian teams?

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  4. alex
    19 years ago

    “the arena COULD collapse” , not can. I think you’re German Tobias. . .right? To be safe, translate “kann/koennen” into “could.”

    “can” usually expresses a vague physical possibility. “I can go to the bathroom.” That’s a fact. If I consider going to the bathroom, it becomes “could.” “I could go to the bathroom now, but I’ll do it later.” “Can I go to the bathroom?” means “Am I physically able to go to the bathroom?” “Could/may I go to the bathroom” means “Am I allowed to go to the bathroom.”

    They can cause lots of confusion, even for Americans, because both are somewhat used interchangeably, especially in colloquial English. Possibly a way to differentiate between the two is to see if the meaning remains the same if you replace “can/could” with “may”. “May” and “could” are virtually synonyms. Both mean, in the building example, that the building is likely to collapse. By using “can”, you say the building has the physical ability to collapse, but that isn’t important since anything could (see how this “could” was used? In the hypothetical. . .) do that.

    I’ll be glad to answer any more questions. I have a decent grasp of German, so I may be helpful. My email is sovereignz@gmail.com.

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  5. alex
    19 years ago

    ahhh! Okay, so here’s another way that I just thought of. The last “could” may also be “can.” If I had written “since anything could do that, but it doesn’t.” then it would be for sure “could”, but I was discribing a physical quality and did not attach anything to it thereafter.

    It’s confusing, I know. Sigh.

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