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Is Jonas Valanciunas the problem for Team Lithuania?

August 3, 2012

And here’s a second question: Shall composition of the requiem for Lietuva’s 2012 Olympic bid begin now? Sadly, it doesn’t look good for our heroes with Team USA on the slate tomorrow and a first-round date with presumably Spain or (BiE’s pick) Russia in the knockout stage – and this in the 20th anniversary year of the country’s greatest-ever Olympic performance.

But first things first. Jonas Valančiūnas. Let’s just get right to the stat lines.

Game 1 vs. Argentina: six points, five rebounds, three PFs, 13 minutes played
Game 2 vs. Nigeria: seven points, three rebounds, three PFs, 13 minutes played
Game 3 vs. France: four points, zero rebounds, two PFs, seven minutes played

In terms of the +/- statistic, Valančiūnas has amassed a number of -19 for the two games, including a -23 victimization at the hands of Argentina.

Lithuania basketball observers don’t need stats to tell you something’s amiss, however. Here’s BallinEurope’s agent Y’s snap review of the Big V’s play in the Nigeria game: “Valančiūnas is bad for team flow. He gets fouls so quickly they have to sub him within like 2 minutes.”

This may sound like an exaggeration but is actually not at all inaccurate: Despite starting most quarters for Lietuva in the first two games, he’s averaging exactly 2.75 minutes per quarter for the Olympics. And Valančiūnas’ game three harkened back eerily to Y’s analysis: Bam, bam, two PFs in the first five minutes of the France game and a swift -7 to “add” to his shocking +/-; yanked by coach Kemzura to sit the remainder of the first half, despite four points and one block.

So what gives? Here’s a guy who became a sensation in Eurobasket 2011 with his gritty performances against Serbia and particularly Spain, where he demonstrated fearlessness and willingness to drive the lane to the tune of 13 points in 16 minutes against those Gasol Boys. Against essentially the same France side he faced yesterday – minus freaking *Joakim Noah* by the way – he ruled over in ’11 with 12 points on 5-of-7 shooting mostly in the paint.

That daunted physicality, ostensibly key to any hope of beating Team USA? Valančiūnas had it in spades at Eurobasket … and so, in short, what gives with Jonas?

Some of Valančiūnas’, let’s say, radically uneven mini-performance against France may be blamed on Team France’s less “physical” play (again, particularly with Noah out): Valančiūnas has historically not played well (if much at all) against sides that open the floor early and often – Did Kemzura forget the ample bench time he gave the Big V against FYR Macedonia, Slovenia and Greece to close out the Eurobasket tourney?

Looking back in hindsight at the sluggish-looking play of that first five minutes (and an early 15-8 deficit for Lithuania), well, geez, why did this same coach even bother to start Valančiūnas at all?

Oh, that’s right: Gone from the admittedly backcourt-heavy Eurobasket 2011 roster are Robertas Javtokas and Ksistof Lavrinovic. With no Javtokas aboard, the only other qualified center on Team Lithuania for the Olympics is 17-year-old late addition Antanas Kavaliauskas. While Kavaliauskas took a DNP in the Argentina game, he’s since been pressed in double-digit playing time to address the Valančiūnas issue. Hell, even the presence of Marijonas Petravicius might be welcome right about now.

Meanwhile, like no-show Donatas Motiejūnas, Lavrinovic might have proven useful at stretching the floor just enough to make Valančiūnas the scoring threat he can be inside. And if Doncė were around, we might be penning a victory, rather than funeral, march.

The lack of frontcourt support that begins with Valančiūnas in turn creates a domino effect on Team Lithuania. Here’s an example. After game one, Y. recommended the following: “You have to start [Sarunas Jasikevicius] and Valančiūnas together then, as Jonas gets his quick fouls, roll in Mantas Kalnietis with Paulius Jankūnas, Linas Kleiza, and Jonas Mačiulis at the top three positions just to facilitate rebounding.”

Sounds like a nice rational plan that Kemzura might have imparted against France. Except that two guard Rimantas Kaukenas had amassed three fouls in parallel with Valančiūnas’ pair and had to be pulled at five minutes in.

Bringing in Kavaliauskas and Marty Pocius closed the gap for Lithuania and ultimately got the side a halftime lead, but the trickling down of minutes kept Jasikevicius on the floor for a whopping 21 minutes. Already wearing down, Saras showed fatigue in going 1-of-5 from the floor and committing four turnovers. With Kalnietis running the offense badly and shooting even worse (25% overall through three games, including 0-of-7 on threes).

Speaking of which, how about Lithuania’s chances on Saturday? Right now, BallinEurope’s guessing Team USA runs Lietuva silly. Back in ’92, the Dream Team took out Lithuania in a 51-point romp; the sportsbook gives Lithuania a +34.5 handicap in this game. BiE doesn’t think it’ll be quite that much of a blowout, but either outcome can’t be worse than this.

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Comments: 11
  1. LITHUANIA BASKETBALL
    12 years ago

    no, VALANČIŪNAS is good and young… we don’t have defensive, tall and muscle center ROBERTAS JAVFTOKAS … sou valančiūnas to young be first team center 🙂

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  2. L`
    12 years ago

    Kavaliauskas is more 27 than 17 years old

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  3. Flawed Strategy
    12 years ago

    They need to let let him play through the fouls. Its better for him to get 10 connected minutes of play than 13 disjointed minutes split into 3-4 minutes segments. You can’t establish a flow that quickly as a big man especially when your teammates don’t give you a chance in the post and expect you to get the offensive rebound whenever they jack shots

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  4. HerringTree
    12 years ago

    I find it interesting that many of his fouls come after he is completely ignored on offense. Make him the focus of the offense for five minutes at a time and I believe you will turn around his game.

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  5. Ignorance
    12 years ago

    I have always liked your analysis, but this time you are wrong. It is not “what’s wrong with Valanciunas”, but “what a terrible coach” story. Instead of building his team on talent, he is building it on half-disabled veterans and mediocre scorers. He does not run offense via his center, which makes it impossible for the team to be unpredictable. Opponents figured him out, and therefore LT national team looks horrible offensively and is too old to defend well. Most of his overdoing/fouling on defensive side comes from shortcomings of the retirees playing on the team. Valanciunas is completely ignored, and psychologically it is very hard to be a trash-points scoring center, when other players are so much worse than him statistically. Sure, he is an easy target to shift all the blame to. However, in his position, I would have packed my things and moved to Toronto yesterday. It is just that bad, when it comes to the mediocre coach.

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  6. Vincent
    12 years ago

    I have to agree with the comments on here about the coaching. I don’t think Lithuania’s coach is doing big V any favors at all and Jonas is not gaining any confidence from his coach. Let him play through the fouls, what do you have to lose? Give the kid some confidence to build on.

    I think the Lithuanians have a decent team and are massively underperforming. In my opinion at least it starts with the coaching

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  7. LG
    12 years ago

    I especially hope he gets to play until he fouls out against the US and Tunisia. Lithuania is already locked into the 4 position (baring something extremely unexpected.) Let Valanciunas get some more playing time. Maybe start bringing him in off the bench like BIE suggested earlier. Last summer (and during qualifying) he was coming off the bench together with Jasikevicius. And they seemed to have developed some rapport. With Javtokas’s injury he’s moved into the starting lineup with players he’s not used to playing with, and then all the rotations have gotten messed up. The players just don’t look comfortable playing with each other. If you brought him off the bench he could still get just as much playing time (or more) or you could go back to some of the old rotations. I don’t know what the best thing to try is, but the coach has got to try something, because clearly this isn’t working.

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  8. mike
    12 years ago

    I admire Lithuania, being a small but basketball crazy country. Sabonis was an all time great and deserved to be in the Naismith Hall of Fame, as he was inducted last year. One thing for sure against the US, those cute Lithuanian chicks will be in the stands rooting on Team Lithuania. I see the US winning by 25 points as Lithuania proudly puts up a fight.

    Good luck!

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  9. Goran
    12 years ago

    This summer:

    Greece 82 – Lithuania 70

    USA 99 – Lithuania 94

    Greece > USA

    PERIOD.

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  10. mike
    12 years ago

    vasillis = gay porn star

    goran=psycho

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  11. Candyman
    12 years ago

    This is the coaches doing, it is not Jonas, he has accepted the role this year that his coach is going with the veteran guys even when they struggle knowing that Jonas has a long bright future, People and critics especailly have a tendency to read into things that are not there, paint untrue portraits and paintings. No matter the foul situations, the coach decided he was going with his veterans, and I actually agree, even in the NBA, I have witnessed to many veteran guys get pushed out of playing time and roles fozzling to retirement because the coach wants to play some young guys with potential and many of them never end up being better than the veteran they replaced in the lineup. It’s obvious Jonas will be a big part of the future in Lithuania, this is not to be questioned.

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