The BallinEurope ballot for Euroleague MVP and All-EL first team was laid bare this morning and whoo, there’s some early backlash. So let’s throw out the question then. Here it is. Who do you like?
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Alphonso Ford Trophy – Bobby Brown
Kostas Papanikolaou won the Rising Star award over Nikola Mirotic.
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hahaha Gabe and mike are going to have a fit…….
http://www.talkbasket.net/7747-greece-going-for-gold.html
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Ettore Messina said at CSKA’s final four press conference than Vassilis Spanoulis is one of the best European players of all history.
Gabe has used this guy as an “expert” and “authoritative source” before. Now just watch, Gabe will say now that what he said isn’t true, after previously saying this guy’s word was gospel.
ReplyNiko
just now
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/112969/180
Dimitris Diamantidis
Rudy Fernandez
Shawn James
Victor Khryapa
Nenad Krstic
Nikola Mirotic
Juan Carlos Navarro
Vassilis Spanoulis
Milos Teodosic
Ante Tomic
No Sonny Weems, no Bobby Brown, no Jordan Farmar…………
Gabe: “I only tell the truth and I only bring FACTS”.
mike: ”All Gabe ever does is tell the truth and present FACTS. I only agree with everything he says here because he is always talking only about FACTS”.
LMFAO
If these two lying, scumbag, clown trolls don’t get banned at this point……….
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Nope, not banned at all. Still here. That’s not a very distinguished list of euros, Niko. I mean the only player who distinguished himself there was JCN, who was 2nd team all rookie in the NBA, if I remember correctly. The rest are scrubs(Spanoulis, Khryapa), rotation players(Krystic, Fernandez, ), players who never played in the NBA for one reason or another, and never heard of type players(Shaun James who?).
BTW, the rotation players were run of the mill type players, and Krystic was just about done a couple years ago on the Celtic bench, where he rarely played.
Not a list to get excited about, Niko. You might get a better list of players from the D-league.
ReplyShawn James played at Duquesne University. He declared for the 2008 draft, hired an agent and went undrafted. But some how, five years after no NBA team would take him even with the 60th pick, magically becomes this great player. Yeah right.
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Come on man give us more facts, this beeing your bread and butter,FACTS right??
Let me lend u a hand and to inform the PEEPS about this Shawn James who? like your best bud mike asked to know..
U right in his last year of college he transfer from Northeastern U to Duquesne U ,posting 12.6ppg 6.9rpg 4.0bpg despite just playing 20min per game!!
Pretty decent right??specialy the rebound and blocking bit..
Going couple of years back between 2004-06 he also played for Norteastern U setting a new ALL NCAA record for Blocked shots,a whole 6.53 per game for the saison, and even better him posting 5 triple doubles during his college days tying him for 3rd place in NCAA HISTORY!!!
After all that and more u would think that there would be a tinny little spot in the drafts for him ,well at least InsideHoops and FOX Sports predicted that he would get picked at nr.17 in that years selection but the so called experts must have graduated from the same school u did gabe cause he went undrafted!!!
Weird to say the least..U remember a guy called Dikembe Mutombo making a whole career, even beeing an all star ,with nothing but blocking shots and picking rebounds..
Anyways my point is FACTS gabe FACTS, even if they dont work in to your favour allways try posting them that way you can claim some credibility instead of beeing ridiculed by everybody all the time ,everytime ,except mike of course cause he gets you but for the rest of us who dont live on the red planet..
There is a reason the experts decided to draft 60 players ahead of this Shawn James is that Shawn James put up those statistic at Northeastern. Now what the hell is North Eastern??!! Some weak ass school in the Colonial Athletic Association. He might as well been playing in Division II.
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mike you are a freaking idiot and an a-hole. Take your trolling NBA bs out of this forum. We (Europeans) don’t want it here.
Go troll some NBA forum.
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Pablo Prigioni, age 35, washed up Euroleague has been…..starter in the playoffs on one of the best teams in the NBA, that is maybe even going to the Western Conference Finals.
In Europe – a washed up has been.
ReplyYawn. Lies, lie and more lies. Last year Prigoni was the starting pg for a Euroleague team, leading the team in assists, steals and 2nd in mpg with 28.39 mgp while in the NBA he is averaging 16.2 mpg, even in the playoffs where he is playing more because of injury he is only averaging 22.4 mpg and remember an NBA game is 8 minutes longer.
The year before that he was a starting pg on a Final Four Euroleague team and led them in assists and steals and was 2nd on the team in mpg with 25.3 mpg.
So again with your lies. The facts show that Prigoni was a star and a starter and one of the main players on his teams in Euroleague and now he came to the NBA to become a solid role player.
Maybe if Spanouis would have excepted his role as a back-up role player in the NBA he would have succeeded like Prigoni. Instead because he thought he was a star because he was a star in the minor leagues where Shawn James’s are stars he will forever be remembered as a scrub in the NBA. Oh wait he might also be remember for losing to Nigeria! LMOA!
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Gabereplied:
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Yawn. Lies, lie and more lies. Last year Prigoni was the starting pg for a Euroleague team, leading the team in assists, steals and 2nd in mpg with 28.39 mgp while in the NBA he is averaging 16.2 mpg, even in the playoffs where he is playing more because of injury he is only averaging 22.4 mpg and remember an NBA game is 8 minutes longer.
The year before that he was a starting pg on a Final Four Euroleague team and led them in assists and steals and was 2nd on the team in mpg with 25.3 mpg.
So again with your lies. The facts show that Prigoni was a star and a starter and one of the main players on his teams in Euroleague and now he came to the NBA to become a solid role player.
Maybe if Spanouis would have excepted his role as a back-up role player in the NBA he would have succeeded like Prigoni. Instead because he thought he was a star because he was a star in the minor leagues where Shawn James’s are stars he will forever be remembered as a scrub in the NBA. Oh wait he might also be remember for losing to Nigeria! LMOA!
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Yawn. Lies. Yawn.
ReplyOfficial:
All-Euroleague First Team:
G Vassilis Spanoulis
G Dimitris Diamantidis
G/F Rudy Fernández
F/C Nenad Krstić
C Ante Tomić
All-Euroleague Second Team:
G Miloš Teodosić
G Juan Carlos Navarro
F Viktor Khryapa
F Nikola Mirotić
F/C Shawn James
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Still no Sonny Weems, Jordan, Farmar, or Bobby Brown, the guys that were “guaranteed” to be in the First Team, according to the “facts” presented here by Gabe and mike for months on end.
ReplyWow. The career NBA back-up Rudy Fernandez, who averaged 9ppg is all Euroleague 1st team. Just shows how role players leave the NBA and become superstars in Euroleague.
Nenad Krstić again. That NBA role player who last we saw in the NBA averaged 1.7 ppg in the playoffs for Boston is voted All-Euroleague 1st team for the 2nd year in a row.
I mean I also knew that Euroleague was a really low level but I never in a million years realized it was this low.
I am sure that it has been over taken by some other league, like the CBA or the Australian league.
Any league that has Rudy Fernandez, Nenad Krstić, Viktor Khryapa and Shawn James as their top players cannot be the 2nd best league in the world. Sorry.
Gabereplied:
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There is a reason the experts decided to draft 60 players ahead of this Shawn James is that Shawn James put up those statistic at Northeastern. Now what the hell is North Eastern??!! Some weak ass school in the Colonial Athletic Association. He might as well been playing in Division II.
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Yeah, they are a bunch of freaking RETARDS. Just like you.
FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!
ReplyGabereplied:
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Wow. The career NBA back-up Rudy Fernandez, who averaged 9ppg is all Euroleague 1st team. Just shows how role players leave the NBA and become superstars in Euroleague.
Nenad Krstić again. That NBA role player who last we saw in the NBA averaged 1.7 ppg in the playoffs for Boston is voted All-Euroleague 1st team for the 2nd year in a row.
I mean I also knew that Euroleague was a really low level but I never in a million years realized it was this low.
I am sure that it has been over taken by some other league, like the CBA or the Australian league.
Any league that has Rudy Fernandez, Nenad Krstić, Viktor Khryapa and Shawn James as their top players cannot be the 2nd best league in the world. Sorry.
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How the hell can this site let this guy’s crazy trolling like this continue? He’s saying the Australian and Chinese leagues are better than Euroleague and he’s absolutely 100% DEAD SERIOUS.
I’ve never seen so much crap come from one poster at any site anywhere. This guy is like a malignant tumor that just won’t stop spreading disease.
ReplyWell, @Rupert. That’s Gabe’s opinion, and you are entitled to yours. You have to admit though that the players he mentioned being 1st team is a little embarrassing for the euroleague. I mean these guys were garbage in the NBA, except for Rudy who was borderline garbage.
These all- Euroleague teams really expose European basketball at times. Maybe another 10-20 years they could finally lay claim to being one of the top leagues in the world after the NBA. Watch out for the Australian league, though. Also, if China continues it’s ascent as a world economic power, and Europe continues it’s decline, then the CBA will eventually sign stars from the US and Europe and surpass the Euroleague. It’s possible.
Somebody will have to have a site called Ball in China.com. LOL
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mikereplied:
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Well, @Rupert. That’s Gabe’s opinion, and you are entitled to yours. You have to admit though that the players he mentioned being 1st team is a little embarrassing for the euroleague. I mean these guys were garbage in the NBA, except for Rudy who was borderline garbage.
These all- Euroleague teams really expose European basketball at times. Maybe another 10-20 years they could finally lay claim to being one of the top leagues in the world after the NBA. Watch out for the Australian league, though. Also, if China continues it’s ascent as a world economic power, and Europe continues it’s decline, then the CBA will eventually sign stars from the US and Europe and surpass the Euroleague. It’s possible.
Somebody will have to have a site called Ball in China.com. LOL
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The NBA is embarrassing. Prigioni, Dragic, Rubio, Lawson, Jennings, Neal, Pachulia, Reggie Williams, Flip Murray……about 20 other such cases.
All of them total and complete scrubs in Euroleague, yet are starters, 6th men, rotation players in NBA.
You have to admit the NBA is pretty awful and pretty damn embarrassing these days.
Clearly, the leagues in Australia and China are BETTER. Maybe in another 20 years NBA can compete with them. But doubtful, since USA economy is such total shit and USA is such a horribly in debt, poor nation, with half the people out of work or in minimum wage part time jobs.
Certainly, NBA can’t compete with China’s league economically. Maybe someone can start a website called saveballinUSA.com
ReplyI’ve already proven time and time again that every single player you mentioned, except for the exception of Jennings who played in the Euroleague at the age of 17 as a kid, either played better in Euroleague (Rubio the starting pg for a Euroleague champion), played about the same (Dragic similar stats) or played less then 10 games in Euroleague (Lawson). More importantly none of those players you mentioned are even close to being stars in the NBA. On the other hand Rudy Fernandez, Nenad Krstić and Viktor Khryapa were NBA back-ups and scrubs and have been selected as the top Euroleague players! Big difference. I mean what a pathetic league that Krstic is selected time and time again to 1st team All-Euroleague. I mean Brittney Grinner would dominate in that league.
“about 20 other such cases” yeah when I have proven time and time again that no player has done better in the NBA than Euroleague except someone who played in Euroleague as a child.
I mean Shawn James played in such a weak conference in college that it gave him good practice to dominate such a weak, soft league as Euroleague. No wonder Euroleague champions get their ass kicked by Nigeria, they’re as soft as paper.
ReplyYeah, I have to agree with everything Gabe said.I think The loss to Nigeria by the core of Olympiacos was really an eye opener. How can a bunch of Euroleague champions just lose like that to a 2nd tier basketball power unless Nigeria has already caught up to them? Now comes this very unimpressive 1st and 2nd team . Wow.
ReplyAlso @Rupert you mentioned that you’ve “never seen so much crap come from one poster at any site” referring to Gabe. Well, let me tell you a little something about this guy on ISH. He calls himself “Euroleague Crazed Troll” and he is the bane of ISH.
Everybody absolutely hates the guy calling him names and such. It’s pretty much justified too since this guy has a really warped view of the world of basketball. This guy would say Spanoulis is the 3rd best player in the world, and such, or that Borousis is the best center in the world and such, and other delusional type of views. This guy actually hyped the Greek NT at the Qualifiers only to go in hiding when Greece lost to Nigeria. I mean he was gone for like a month, literally.
Normally, it’s okay. It’s just basketball, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it really gets hairy when this guy cusses and calls everyone on the board racist, and such. This prompted the moderators to threaten to ban him if he didn’t behave better. He’s still around on the site “entertaining” everyone with his conspiracy laden view of the basketball world.
Now, that’s a guy who’s a “malignant tumor”. If you see that guy, please tell him to get help.LOL
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Kill Bill wins again…………..
Renren Most Popular Euroleague Player In China Poll results:
1. Vassilis Spanoulis
2. Dimitris Diamantidis
3. Juan Carlos Navarro
4. Sarunas Jasikevicius
5. Rudy Fernandez
6. Sergio Llull
7. Milos Teodosic
8. Sasha Vujacic
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Euroleague MVP will be announced Thursday, May 9, 2013.
The final four candidates for the award are Vassilis Spanoulis, Rudy Fernandez, Ante Tomic, and Nenad Krstic.
ReplyAnd the oscar goes to VASSILIS SPANOULIS!!!
No suprise there the guy is worth his weight in gold for Olympiakos ,organizing the offense, executing, passing, drawing fouls and all that without trying to force it ,keeping his numbers of attempt within his
share..
In my opinion that is what makes him such an effective leader..what good
is it scoring 30 points out of 30 attempts
on a bad scoring night, cutting into your teammates turn to produce for
the team..instead he goes the other way ,dishing out passes taking a step
back and letting the guy or guys with the hottest hand on the night take
over ,even if it is the all deciding last shot to win it all or loose it all like in
istanbul last year where he put his ego aside , pass to Printezis and the
rest is history..
Just for his frame of mind in a situation like that and many simular
situations in this years campain ,he deserves the MVP award hands down
this saison and everything else is pure envy , agendas far removed from
basketball or sheer stupidity..
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/113134/180
Vassilis Spanoulis of Olympiacos Piraeus was named 2012-13 bwin Euroleague MVP at the EFES Euroleague Awards Ceremony held at the City Hall in London, England on Thursday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDuOOXs_o3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWhq6rDfHHo
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Gabe and mike can STFU and GFTO!
ReplyCongratulations to V-Span for his MVP. Notice I’ve never ever said V-Span was not the best player in Europe. I just hope now that he has conquered Europe again, he will set his sights to the NBA and start erasing his legacy of failure in the NBA, where “the best players in the world play” according to him.
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