Rumor du jour: Joey Dorsey to leave Olympiacos for NBA

October 26, 2012

The rumor’s starting to burgeon on Twitter. In just a few minutes (2pm CET, to be precise), go reports and say sources, officials of Euroleague champions Olympiacos are to announce that the former University of Memphis/Caja Laboral Baskonia big man Joey Dorsey will be released from his €2 million contract with . Further, others say that Dorsey has in fact received an offer from an NBA club, so let’s begin the speculation and Officially Fearlessly Predict™ it’s … the Dallas Mavericks…

Oct 26, 2012ballineurope

This post was published on October 26, 2012

Comments: 54

Gerard
10 years ago
Dorsey has been cut from several teams over character issues. If he keeps this up he won’t be getting any more offers.
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Phileus
10 years ago
If it really is the Mavericks, that’s pretty pathetic to go from Tyson Chandler and Brendan Haywood to Eddy Curry and Joey Dorsey in the span of two seasons.
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Vincent
10 years ago
He seems to have a nice gig going at Olympiacos? Why leave to sit on an NBA bench?
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- Rambaldi
  10 years ago
  I hate to break it to you, but he’s just a bit part minor role player on Olympiacos.
  
  2011-12 season:
  
  14 minutes per game – 4 points per game – 4 rebounds per game
  
  2012-13 season:
  
  13 minutes per game – 3 points per game – 3 rebounds per game
  
  Link for proof, since crazy lying a-holes like Gabe, Phileus, and mike spam this forum and will claim this is a lie:
  
  http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003508&clubcode=OLY
  
  NBA fans always make up these alternate reality fantasy worlds and these fake and totally imagined myths about how every single NBA player (especially Americans) “dominates” in Europe.
  
  When truth is that most of them are just average players at best. Many are even scrubs.
  
  Joey Dorsey was nothing but a small bit role player on Olympiacos. Hardly near anything close to how NBA fans claim. They call him “Dwight Howard of Euroleague”, when he was more like a 10-15 minute a game guy used to make some fouls and play some defense and that was it.
  
  He averaged 12 minutes with the Raptors in 2010-11, 14 minutes with Olympiacos in 2011-12, and 13 minutes with Olympiacos in 2012-13.
  
  You are just completely imagining, like all NBA only fans do, because they suffer from a severe mental disorder.
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  - Gabe
    10 years ago
    Okay, again. An NBA game is 48 minutes while a Euroleague game only 40 so 14 minutes with a Euroleague team means a lot more than 12 with an NBA team. But also with Toronto he was a “role” player on a 23-43 team and with Olympiacos he was a “role” player on the Euroleague champions, a little different if you ask me.
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    - Mansour
      10 years ago
      On Toronto he was not cut. On Olympiakos, he was cut. I think that means a “little more”….
      
      This Gabe jerk is a tool.
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      - Gabe
        10 years ago
        Show a link showing he was cut. From what I’ve seen he left the team voluntarily. And he wasn’t cut from Toronto? New flash. The only reason American players go to Euroleague in the 1st place is because the could not make an NBA team. Duh.
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Vaidas
10 years ago
What happened to you, guys? Why did you get stuck on trivial stuff?
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Rambaldi
10 years ago
Dorsey had a salary of $1.2 million per season with Olympiacos. Not €2 million euros.
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Phileus
10 years ago
I’m pretty sure by “nice gig” Vincent meant Dorsey had stability, better pay than he had in the NBA (where he’ll probably get the vet minimum at this point) to play in fewer games, and a chance to play an important role on an important team.

I don’t think anyone in the world has mistaken Dorsey for Dwight Howard. Dorsey was the same player in the NBA as he was in Memphis: a player with almost non-existent offensive polish who’s a smart low-post and PNR player but unfortunately not an elite rebounder for his position and, it seemed to me, a little bit on the fat side. Sounds like he was pretty much the same in the Euroleague last season: http://www.euroleague.net/final-four/istanbul-2012/main-page/i/97866/7002/tribute-to-the-champs-olympiacos-joey-dorsey

Also, LOL at telling Vincent he has mental issues for saying Dorsey had a nice gig at Olympiacos. Okay sure, I guess it was his misfortune to play for such a team? 😛
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Mansour
10 years ago
What is always with this “less games” crap every time some NBA fan mentions Euroleague? Olympiacos is scheduled for 72 games this year according to what their coach said in the article about Dorsey leaving the team.

It’s really odd how NBA fans harp on this whole “less games in Europe” thing. I don’t really think 10 games makes that much of a difference. But to hear NBA fans talk about it is like a whole different world in terms of the difference in games.
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Phileus
10 years ago
Including HEBA and Euroleague playoffs/finals, Olympiacos still played only around 70 games last season. The NBA regular season is 82 games, plus a maximum of 28 playoff games for a potential total of 120.
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Vincent
10 years ago
I guess the word “gig” doesn’t translate well.

What I meant was why leave a team where he is making good money, has a nice role, and has some stability on a leading European side?

He should stay in Greece

He is not a big-time player in either the NBA or Europe, but has a nice role in greece where he should stay
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Pierre
10 years ago
Gabe says:
October 29, 2012 at 4.47am

Show a link showing he was cut. From what I’ve seen he left the team voluntarily. And he wasn’t cut from Toronto? New flash. The only reason American players go to Euroleague in the 1st place is because the could not make an NBA team. Duh.

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Wow, this guy us a HUGE troll.
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Pierre
10 years ago
Phileus says:
October 28, 2012 at 6.51pm

Including HEBA and Euroleague playoffs/finals, Olympiacos still played only around 70 games last season. The NBA regular season is 82 games, plus a maximum of 28 playoff games for a potential total of 120.

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1. Only about half of NBA teams make the playoffs. The Euroleague teams are all bound to playing those amounts of games.

2. No NBA team ever plays 28 playoff games, and no NBA team ever played 120 games.

3. Actually, several Euroleague teams can play about 80 games a year.

4. You forgot to count cup games. Euroleague teams don’t just play their national league and the Euroleague. They also play their national cup. You forgot to figure that in. They play in 3 competitions.

5. NBA teams only play 8 preseason games. Euroleague teams play between 12-16 preseason games.

6. The European season is longer for Euroleague teams than it is for NBA teams, especially NBA teams that don’t make the playoffs.

7. Euroleague teams practice twice a day on non game and non travel days. NBA teams usually practice about 3-4 times a month on average, and it’s not unusual for them to practice once or twice in a month.

8. Using your comparison of Joey Dorsey playing “less” on Olympiakos than in the NBA is totally wrong and incorrect. It is simply not true. As an example, Josh Childress said that because Euroleague teams practice so much more than NBA teams, and play in 3 competitions, that actually, he played more basketball with Olympiakos than he did in the NBA, and that playing in Olympiakos was more tiring than an NBA schedule.

9. NBA fans don’t know what they are talking about when they talk about how Euroleague team play so much “less”. With he extreme difference in amount of practices alone, a Euroleague schedule is more demanding than an NBA one.

As many others here say, you state things as absolute fact, without even knowing the actual truth, and that what you are saying is actually wrong.
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- Phileus
  10 years ago
  Thank you for taking the time to write a reasonable response instead of just saying “omg trolls” as we’re used to 😉
  
  I’m not convinced by your comparison of the number of games. Basically you’re saying the top Euroleague teams will play, at maximum, around 80 games (and far less than that for teams cut out of the top 16), whereas over half the NBA (i.e. teams that make the playoffs) will play more than that. Basically, it’s still accurate to say that the average NBA team will play at least 10 – 20% more games than the average Euroleague team, and of course with games that are 20% longer that will take a higher toll on the players, as well.
  
  Your point about practice is definitely valid though, especially since a lot of the more spoiled American players who went abroad during the lockout complained about the number (and nature) of the practices in Europe. This is a more valid counterargument than the number of games played, especisally since it affects players’ lifestyles in a way that is probably as significant as additional games. So I get your point 🙂
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Pierre
10 years ago
Vincent says:
October 29, 2012 at 3.41am

I guess the word “gig” doesn’t translate well.

What I meant was why leave a team where he is making good money, has a nice role, and has some stability on a leading European side?

He should stay in Greece

He is not a big-time player in either the NBA or Europe, but has a nice role in greece where he should stay

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Dorsey has some kind of mental issues. He has had many problems before in his previous teams with attitude and behavior. This is nothing new. If he had a normal attitude he would have still been playing for the Rockets. He would not last in Olympiacos or any other team because of his attitude.
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Nikos
10 years ago
Here it explains everything about the situation with Dorsey –

http://www.redplanet.gr/Editorial/psinopoulos/o-ntorsei-kai-o-antikatastaths-toy.1987494.html

No team can allow someone with such behaviors to stay on their team. That is just not acceptable behavior. But it should not be a surprise, because the Kings also cut him for behavior reasons.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  Yes as that article, in this article in English explains,
  http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2012/10/28/3565910/plenty-of-questions-surrounding-dorseys-reported-departure-from
  
  It’s not like Dorsey was cut because of his skill. It seems to be mutual agreement (like Odom in Dallas last year) where Dorsey no longer wanted to play for Olympiacos.
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Nikos
10 years ago
Dorsey was a part of the first Olympiacos team to win a title in Euroleague and Greek League in 15 years. So Olympiacos fans will always remember him I am sure.

Anyway, I read in Greek media that already players like Ike Diogu, Troy Murhpy, Mehmet Okur, and Chris Anderson have asked Olympiacos to sign them. So I am sure they can find a replacement.

That is if they have any interest in any of those players. Anderson and Diogu supposedly already tried to sign their this summer and Olympiacos was not interested. And the Olympiacos coach said that they would only sign players with a good reputation in character. So Chris Anderson should automatically be out.

Plus Diogu is a PF, not a C. So probably out for him. Okur has bad knees and also supposedly Real Madrid wants him. So maybe that means Troy Murphy will be Dorsey’s replacement.

I think Mavroeidis is very underrated as a player. Maybe they should just let him get more playing time. He was starting center on the second best team in the Spanish League, so it’s not like he is some scrub or something.
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- Phileus
  10 years ago
  Hahaha. Diogu is horrible and, sadly, Okur is basically a mummy now. Murphy is interesting though. HAs Murphy ever played in Europe? He’s an above-average rebounder and has been a great shooter even since college, though he really only got to show that off when he was in Indiana. I’m surprised nobody in the NBA is offering him a vet minimum, but then again his defense is spotty and he’s getting older. He’s also a solid stretch-the-floor PF but I’ve never seen him get significant center minutes, probably because he couldn’t really defend strong centers.
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  - Gabe
    10 years ago
    Diogu is horrible? I know he didn’t make the Phoenix Suns’ roster but he was the best player on the Nigerian team that beat Greece, Lithuania, Dominican Republic and Tunisia.
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    - Phileus
      10 years ago
      His whole career has been a series of disappointments and conditioning issues. He could have been a beast, I remember peopel even throwing around Barkley comparisons when he was drafted, and now he has a snowflake’s chance of hell of ever playing in the league (unless he dominates D-League again). He plays well against inferior competition, but he’s not NBA-level anymore and he never, ever came close to the potential so many teams saw in him.
      
      Btw, in terms of career-arc, not skills/talent/etc., I really think what we’re seeing with Anthony Randolph reflects what happened with Diogu.
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      - Gabe
        10 years ago
        Yeah I guess you’re right. I was just looking at how Diogu played in the Olympic qualifying tournament getting Nigeria into the Olympics for the first time ever and eliminating Greece and Dominican Republic (with Horford). But yes it was against weaker level competition and still more importantly, it was only for one short tournament. As shown with Greece and Spanoulis in 2006, winning an upset in a FIBA tournament is easier than building a career in the NBA where day in and day out you have to compete against the best in the world.
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Nikos
10 years ago
Diogu was reported this summer to have asked to play with Euroleague clubs Barca, Malaga, Panathinaikos, and Siena and none of them signed him. So whatever he was doing over the summer was evidently not impressing any of those teams.

Not saying he is a bad player, as I don’t really know. All I saw was him in the Olympic qualification where he played good, but his team only won purely by the refs and 100% the game against Greece was rigged. Then in Olympics where he played OK.

So you count a lot of victories for his team that never should have happened if not for ref interference.

Anyway, the name of Diogu was put out as he requested to play for Olympiacos, not that they asked him to. They said all of these players requested to play for them. Olympiacos simply says it will due background and scouting on all of them before they decide.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  I really don’t know how you can claim a game where Greece was called for 5 less fouls and took 8 more free throws 100% rigged. I mean I see how you can disagree with the calls and non-calls at the end but Greece shot 60.7% (17/28) on their free throws while Nigeria shot 90% (18/20). Was that the refs doing. If Greece hit one more free throw it would have been an overtime game, 2 more and they would have won. Greece was out rebounded by 10, 28-38 including being out rebounded by 11 on the offensive end 6-17. Were those 17 offensive rebounds by Nigeria 100% rigged by the refs?
  
  If the game really was 100% rigged wouldn’t Nigeria have gotten called for less fouls and given more free throws then Greece? They must have been the best rigging refs in the history of basketball in calling 5 less fouls on Greece and giving them 8 more free throws yet knowing that they would shot 60% from the free throw line and give up 17 offensive rebounds.
  
  BTW in that game Diogu had 17/12, out rebounding Bourousis by 7. How can refs fix rebounds?
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AP
10 years ago
The refs rigged the Greece – Nigeria game. You automatically out yourself as a Greek hater with an anti Greek agenda the instant you deny that.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  Yes the refs rigged the game by calling Greece for 5 less fouls and giving them 8 more free throws. Those dastardly refs. I really hope the refs rig games against the Knicks this year by giving them more free throws than their opponents!
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AP
10 years ago
About Diogu, Greek media reported that Olympiacos did not accept his proposal to sign with them.

They said Chris Anderson was denied his request also. The reasons given were:

Anderson – character issues

Diogu – can’t play defense

Of course, Gabe will continue to troll here and claim that Diogu “dominated inferior Greek players”.

So true,that this “dominant” player is not even wanted by those “inferior Greeks”, even when he OFFERS them his services.

I swear, there really is a special place in hell for racist creeps like Gabe.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  Again, give a post proving that are you are just a liar. You have been caught in so many lies already that one you sprout nonsense like that no one can take it as serious unless you lost links.
  
  It’s like the boy who cried wolf…sorry
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  - Gabe
    10 years ago
    And also Diogu was on the Sun’s summer league roster so I think he preferred trying to make an NBA team than playing for a team that get’s embarrassed by a team led NBA back-ups Farmar and Erden. As we say from summer when he spanked Greede, Diogu has some pride, unlike Spanoulis and Ioannis “these Africans jump so high its not fair” Bourousis.
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    - Jack
      10 years ago
      I am REALLY getting tired of all these blatantly racist comments from Gabe. There is no place for this racist trash here, yet he keeps posting it over and over. It’s disgusting.
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      - Gabe
        10 years ago
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=428Y6FtLqsc
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AP
10 years ago
On subject of which NBA teams want Dorsey, Greek media says it is Oklahoma City Thunder and Dallas Mavericks.
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mike
10 years ago
Instead of characterizing the Greece-Nigeria game as rigged, and stating that as fact, why not go over your list of instances in the game itself which clearly show this.? Answer Gabe’s queries on free throws, and fouls. C’mon, go for it. What do you have to lose? Anybody?
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  Fact, any game where Greece loses, a European team loses to a non-European team (Dominican Republic/FYR of Macedonia), Team USA wins or a Euroleague game where a Euroleague team whose best players are NBA role players (CSKA Moscow) beats a Greek team (Panathinaikos) is rigged.
  
  Any more questions?
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Panos
10 years ago
Dorsey apologized and now asks to stay with Olympiakos…………………

http://www.redplanet.gr/basket/metaniwmenos-o-ntorsei.1990999.html

oh and yes, game between Hellas and Nigerians was a fix. Last 2 to 3 calls were ridiculous to any person that is not drooling and eating their own feces. So to any other than Gabe who sees it.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  Last 2 to 3 calls does not make a game. The fact is the Nigeria was able to beat Greece in a game where they were called for 5 more fouls and were awarded 8 less free throws.
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Erik
10 years ago
I saw the game. It was fixed by the refs. END OF DISCUSSION.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  Man what great job of fixing the game. Able to make Greece miss 11 of 28 free throws and get out rebounded by 11 on the offensive end. Plus give the team your fixing to win 8 less free throws and 5 more fouls.
  
  Those refs must be the best fixing refs ever!!! Why are they reffing some low league Olympic qualifying game between Greece and Nigeria? They should be fixing games with millions of dollars of betting money on the line like the NBA finals where they can call more fouls on a team and give them less free throws but still fix it so they win.
  
  Amazing. They can also magically make the team they are fixing to lose miss free throws and look like old women on the boards. Wow! The best fixing refs ever!!
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  - Gabe
    10 years ago
    Nigeria showing Vassilis “loser” Spanoulis, Ioannis “these Africans can jump so high it’s not fair” Bourousis and the rest of the unathletic Greek team how it’s done!
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZKdNtMRm6Y
    
    Nigeria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gabe IS RACIST
10 years ago
“Nigeria showing Vassilis “loser” Spanoulis, Ioannis “these Africans can jump so high it’s not fair” Bourousis and the rest of the unathletic Greek team how it’s done!”

This POS scumbag is as racist as they come.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  ROTFL If I’m as racist as they come than the world would be a much better place. Boy you’re ignorant. I guess I’m racist against my own race.
  
  btw When is the next Euroleague game? I want to see the half black, half Jewish Jordan Farmar show the soft Euro-scubs how NBA back-up do it. Farmar for Euroleague MVP and then come back to the Nets. They need a solid back-up point guard.
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Jasper Cheesy
10 years ago
Brady (Tom Brady) never knows that there is not accident once again led the Patriots super bowl. And the 2008 Super Bowl than 2012, the Patriots among the lineup has had tremendous alteration favor the best companion Brady pass from Randy Moss.
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Mike
10 years ago
This site really should tell Gabe to stop making all those racist comments here. It really should not be tolerated. It’s offensive and a lot of people don’t come here wanting to see it.
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mike
10 years ago
Hey Mike, it’s not offensive at all. Gabe, I saw Farmar play against Caja the other day. He looks like the Isaiah Thomas of Europe. We could also use him in Philly as a back-up to Jrue Holiday. Yeah, he can be a back-up especially if he wins Euroleague MVP. That’s what Euroleague MVP’s are for, right? LOL
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JC
10 years ago
Gabe is racist and so is mike, the one with the lower case. This site should step in and tell them to keep the racist trash off the forum. It is very offensive.

As for Farmar winning Euroleague MVP – it is clear that people like mike and Gabe smoke crack every day.
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- Gabe
  10 years ago
  I’m so racist I get excused from jury duty by telling them I’m prejudiced against all races.
  
  I do not smoke crack every day. That is so 80’s. I smoke crystal meth every day.
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Gabe
10 years ago
Sonny Weems. MVP of the month in leading CSKA to a 4-0 record in Euroleague. Smart move by CSKA replacing one NBA role player (Kirilenko) with another (Weems). Gives them another potential Euroleague MVP and another shot at the title.
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Euroleague > NBA
10 years ago
Kirilenko with 17 points 6 rebounds 3 assists 1 steal 3 blocks against the Raptors……

WOW look at Kirilenko DOMINATE those soft non athletic stiff AMERICAN NBA SCRUBS!
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Euroleague > NBA
10 years ago
The white Kirilenko DOMINATING those Africans…………….!
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Euroleague > NBA
10 years ago
Sonny Weems with 4 points and a -1 ranking in Russian League……….the “domination” continues………….LMFAO

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Russia/2012/1104_89_392.asp
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Euroleague > NBA
10 years ago
Dagunduro with 0 points and a -1 ranking in Italian League…….

http://www.eurobasket.com/boxScores/Italy/2012/1104_4474_84.asp

averaging 0.8 points per game for the year in Italian League…

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry=Italy&Team=84&Page=3

The “domination of slow non athletic white stiffs in Italian League by the super athletic and genetically superior African continues”…………..

LMFAO
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mike
10 years ago
Without Kevin Love, Ricky Rubio, JJ Barea, the Wolves have no else to go but Kiri. Hey, he is a good NBA player, but he won Euroleague MVP. This is virtually impossible for him to do in the NBA.
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