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Chicken move or clever maneuver? Conspiracy theorizing on Spain 96, France 69

September 12, 2011

With not nearly enough time spent in Lithuania, BallinEurope doesn’t wish to make any generalizations regarding the national character vis-à-vis tendency to conspiracy theory. Having been based in Central Eastern Europe for plus-10 years now, however, BiE knows how it goes, with “it” here representing “management of professional sport clubs well above and beyond normal, decent parameters of corruption.”

How does it go? It goes like this and this and this and this and just about all of this and of course this – and that’s just Greece and Turkey; don’t get BiE started on Vladimir Romanov.

Certain high-level executive types, along with the occasional marquee name player, apparently throw a collective middle finger gesture to the fans, even throwing a, let’s say, colorful discombobulation of the truth or two to the masses once in a while – just to keep things interesting, one guesses. And because they can.

In America, multibillionaires essentially blackmail local taxpayers for further millions to keep the local franchise in town with a shiny new privately-owned stadium; here, some owners and/or club presidents would kill a club as easily as a single player’s career for, well, you figure it out.

A distinctive cynicism from unnecessary politicization of basketball is produced in Continental fans (BiE includes himself in this class at this point); caught in the line of fiery sarcasm and bitter rage kept barely in check are referees, players, federation officials, coaches. “Anybody can be bought,” they we think in times of their our despondent lows.

No wonder the Lithuanian journos at halftime of the Spain-Lithuania match in EuroBasket 2011 Group A play, with the home side down a crazy 62-36, were putting their team’s woes as due to hangovers at best, payoffs at worst. One bit of dialogue ran thusly:

BiE: Ah, come on. Look, i’ve lived in Hungary for more than 10 years. I know how it works, but come on! How much would it take to pay the Lithuanian team to not only lose a game to Spain at home, but to lose in a blowout?

Lithuanian journalist: (shrugs)

BiE: Really? Come on, man…

Et cetera. BiE just thought Spain was firing on all cylinders, doing everything perfectly short of losing some individual positioning battles with Jonas Valanciunas, but what do i know? BiE’s not quite hardened enough yet, it seems…

This rant was merely the backdrop to present an interesting conversation i had with BallinEurope correspondent code-named Y, chatting during halftime of the Lithuania-Germany match. Y. presented an all-too plausible scenario regarding France’s 96-69 rolling over for Spain yesterday.

And this is how it started:

Y.: FRA are suckers
Y.: i hope they lose in quarterfinal
BiE: Gee, they might.
BiE: Damn, what a statement game.
Y.: i mean
Y.: and it’s just strange

That should have been my cue that Y. was way ahead of BiE. A familiar trembling sensation ran through me as BiE knew that cherished beliefs were to be swept aside and illusions dissed.

Y.: they trade Slovenia or *Finland* in the quarterfinal for *Greece*
Y.: just to miss LTU/MKD in probable semifinal

At first, BiE didn’t let the implications of the statement sink in, going on instead to kick around predictions for the next round; we’re both assuming Russia stops the FYR Macedonia machine. For the final four,

Y.: i would pick
Y.: ESP FRA LTU SRB
Y.: then
Y.: ESP SRB for final
BiE: Wow, going against your boys?
Y.: well
Y.: we’ll see
BiE: You know, Serbian hasn’t looked really awesome yet … and Lietuva has at times.
Y.: ESP is very very good
Y.: SRB has a better road for the final
Y.: they don’t play LTU or ESP

BiE was thinking at time, “I might trade out Greece for France in that final four.”

BiE: Do they really think France can beat Greece like that?
Y.: i hope they don’t
Y.: they don’t deserve to
Y.: btw
Y.: can you imagine
Y.: they would get LTU which i think they don’t want to
BiE: O, so Lithuania does have to meet Spain again?
Y.: in the semifinals
Y.: that’s why people say
Y.: FRA dropped the game
Y.: to play whoever else

Pragmatically speaking, Les Bleus had nothing to prove against Spain – yet. But of course, there was one key question.

BiE: Why would they not want Finland?
Y.: it’s MKD-LTU v ESP-SLO and FRA-GRE v SRB-RUS

Hmmm … not having to go through Lithuania would probably assist any team in the knockout round, wouldn’t it? Heck, in another society, these move might get lauds to Vincent Collect and the Team France brain trust for possibly getting Les Bleus to the podium. But, wait, as they say, there’s more!

BiE: so France gambles that they can beat Greece and then win the next.
Y.: i guess
Y.: i don’t know
Y.: what would you say
Y.: ?
Y.: Parker, Noah will have *five* rest days now
BiE: So if France won, they’d’ve had Lithuania in the next round?
Y.: yep
Y.: isn’t it a bit too much
Y.: ?
BiE: compelling conspiracy theory there.
BiE: I may write this up.

And so it was … because the world needs to know. After all, how hard is it to imagine a costly club built to win this tournament would perform the equivalent of poor NBA teams tanking down the stretch for more pingpong balls in the lottery: It’s a short-term risk for a long-term gain.

Now tell BiE true: Did France give this game early for an easier path to the semifinals? Could it be, despite rhetoric practiced by players and coaches worldwide, that they don’t “take these games one at a time”? And was it a clever tactical maneuver or a chicken move worthy of derision? BiE guesses he knows how the Team Greece supporters feel about this…

And as for Lithuania veteran Sarunas Jasikevicius, who prayed through FIBA.com with “Dear God, please let us meet [Spain] again one more time,” well, you can thank France for the assist in fulfilling your quest.

„FIBA

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Comments: 9
  1. Konj
    11 years ago

    so wait… Serbia will play France in the semis, if we both qualify??? OH MY GOD, THAT”S GREAT NEWS! 😀

    haha this doesn’t make sense… it’s like US open (first vs third, second vs fourth) when it should be 1st vs 4th, 2nd vs 3rd… Great news, wow this pretty much opens up the olympic spot, of course we gotta beat Russia or Macedonia and then France, but it’s still far more realistic than beating Spain… Jesus Christ, only Lithuania can beat Spain! and even if they do that, it doesn’t mean they would be favorites in the final clash versus France or Serbia.

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  2. G
    11 years ago

    Maybe it’s possible that they simply didn’t believe they can beat Spain, thus prefered not to even bother?..

    But anyway, I’m sure many Lithuanian fans will help Greece to make it very hard for France in the quarters, and if they nevertheless succeed, who knows, maybe they’ll get Lithuania for the bronze medal match :]

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  3. G to Konj
    11 years ago

    If we beat Spain, we definitely WILL be the favorites (there would be one day break, enough to recover after celebration and prepare :)). C’mon, win silver at home? C’mon! It’s gold or bronze.

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    • Konj
      11 years ago

      No, no… i’m not saying you wouldn’t be favorites… but, you really wanna beat Spain… and if you do that, you may become careless like Spain was in 07 final. When you play your heart out against one team, sometimes it’s possible to discharge emotionally. You destroyed us quite easily, you were dropping threes like it’s not a big deal… Maybe your players wouldn’t take us as serious as they did last time…
      I really think we should play in the final though… two real basketball countries with huge tradition and no foreign players. Yeah… it could be epic!
      In the mean time, let’s take one game at a time…

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  4. Konj
    11 years ago

    oops my mistake… it actually makes sense… E1 vs F4 and F2 vs E3… awesome! i really think we can play in the final match… now it’s time to get serious!!! also, Greece can beat France!

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  5. cee
    11 years ago

    If the particular case concerns France, why these pompous references to the corruption in Eastern Europe?

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  6. Audenis
    11 years ago

    I think france did lose the game on purpose in order to avoid face LT in the semi-finals. Not that they could have beaten Spain anyway, but the 2 teams you most want to avoid in the semis are Spain (the best team) and LT (home field advantage.) I almost thought LT would try to tank the game against germany to get the 4 seed instead of the 3 seed. They would have to beat Russia in the first round, but then avoid Spain in the semis. It’s LT’s own fault. If they had beaten France like they should have, then they would be the 2 seed and france would have to play Spain in the Semis.

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    • Gabe
      11 years ago

      It was too dangerous to tank vs Germany because if they lost by 11 or more they would have been eliminated.

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  7. LD Pope
    11 years ago

    You never remember the right things men ??! Greeks and Spanishs learned us how to win… : make the difference in choosing your opponent !!! War against our Best Ennemies (Greece) for a place to the 1/2… How a BBall Dream ^^

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